Build Challenge - Fastest AFK Callagadra kill

[ContragorX]

@banana_peel

on active skills.

Sounds good. Let’s make it all builds as long as it’s 100% AFK and see what happens. I’ll add your conjurer shortly.

EDIT: Removed the non-retal requirement. Let’s gooo!

[banana_peel]

in the video Conjurer, Level 100 (GD 1.2.1.6) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

i got pets to the point they mostly survive tanking Calla and then invested everything else into dmg. mostly because there was nothing to invest into. the char wont survive the tank anyway and there’s almost no more tank you can provide to pets without selling tons of dmg

[davide_sacco]

i see. i was trying to figure out why it was so different from other conjurers like Maya’s but i think it was purely built for the sake of this challenge

[GIJW]

@ContragorX

Very nice! Though I’m not sure what to do about low survival rate in general. Do we include such builds or only allow the “invincible” ones or those with high survival rates?

I just think this should be a PR thing, like any other sports thingy. Like running 100 meters as fast as possible. Who cares what your average time is, it is the fastest time in the final lap that matters

[GIJW]

@banana_peel

The only thing I’d change is allow retal. Make it a generic afk challenge and let people be impressed by whatever they want to be. All strongest retal builds rely heavily on active skills. Off the top of my head I don’t see a build with a timer to rival pets. Maybe lighting Warder but idk.

I agree with this, the fastest retal killers are those that rely heavily on rata skills etc.
By allowing for ANY afk char, we can actually test and see what the FASTEST afk calla killer really is.

[ContragorX]

@GIJW

Who cares what your average time is, it is the fastest time in the final lap that matters

This can be taken to absolute extreme like 1 in 1000 success rate on a mega glass cannon build. It’s far easier to reset Calla fight every 10 sec as opposed to, say, fishing for hours for a good SR. If the rate is very low, this will at least be noted alongside the result.

[banana_peel]

Bysmiel Conjurer + Stone Form AFK vs Callagadra [1.2.1.6] - 2:52

I rarely play pets so i just learned Ston Form is an aura. With this shield the kill seems much more reliable. You have to remove one of Taunts from pets to have Calla switch to you sometimes because her ideal dps standing still - pets still can’t sustain indefinitely.

The only issue is Stone Form doesn’t always proc. Probably because most of the dmg in this instance in not blockable.

edit: since we started doing it without pharma, i suggest adding it to the requirements.

[ContragorX]

@banana_peel

since we started doing it without pharma, i suggest adding it to the requirements.

Good point, added!

[banana_peel]

Bysmiel Conjurer + Stone Form AFK vs red Ravager [1.2.1.6] - 2:50

Since someone asked about Ravager, i recorded a video this one time just for reference. It’s an inferior challenge, at least red Ravager has basically no chance at killing player or a pet. So i don’t think this data is worth recording.

Blue Ravager doesn’t make much sense for the challenge beause the essence of the fight is reposition away from null totems. Don’t think player or pets will have any dmg or sustain standing in nulls.

[banana_peel]

You can also remove low winrate from Bysmiel now. With the shield it feels not 100% but at least pretty high.

[GIJW]

Is that noted along Usan Bolts WR results in 100m and 200m? No, only the fastest time matters.

I know there was a debate going on in high jump among Stefan Holm and Patrik Sjöberg. Holm claimed he was the second best high jumper in history because he was the one who had jumped over 2,40 meters the most time in a competition. But Sjöberg who was the athlete who had jumped second highest all time, said “it is called high jump, not many jumps…”

The challenge was to get fastest AFK call kill, not the fastest average time among 10 trials etc.

[ContragorX]

Done, fixed!

[ContragorX]

@GIJW

Is that noted along Usan Bolts WR results in 100m and 200m?

No, but here, many players are constantly looking for various builds to try. Someone might actually decide that just because the build achieves a 2 min Calla AFK kill it’s a good candidate for doing it in HC for example. They would sink hundreds of hours building it just to RIP shortly after. So, I want to make sure there’s clarity. Maybe adding HC approved badges or something.

[Bas]

@ContragorX

Someone might actually decide that just because the build achieves a 2 min Calla AFK kill it’s a good candidate for doing it in HC for example.

That’s a little silly. You don’t even need to cover all resists just for this fight, while for a general character you would.

[banana_peel]

Tried Dawnbreaker Warder. It dies in the 1st phase. Probably can tank it up somehow with more regen and armor but not worth it. The dmg is nowhere near pets. She was down only 10% hp in 30 secs.

This spectacularly useless set proved to be useless in this gimmick challenge, too.

[GIJW]

Do you really think that someone would sink that many hours into farming and making one of these builds just to make a 6 min afk calla kill? xD

It should be pretty clear that the optimal gear for this project/challenge require GD stash gear or farming until end of time. If you play HC, use your own judgment. As with all the other builds posted here on the forum.

What is the next limitation, no green category? I think stuff like this is just a way for us to have fun with the game and see how various sets and setups performs. This is a science experiemt, not something you should aim for. Similar as with Usain Bolt, just because you eat tons of jam- you will not run as fast as him! Or if you wanna start working out at the gym, using Arnold Swarcheneggers encyclopedia of bodybuilding is not the way to start with!

[Nery]

Tried cold Trickster with Chillwhisper set, which have life steal and damage to spirits. It’s close. Tried few devotion maps, didn’t try Stone Form, but Ghoul, Bat, more DA, etc and sustain seems not enough. This version took Calla till few percentage health and died. Couldn’t replicate that run. Time would be around 7 minutes and on par with fastest vitality (non-pet) build out there, damn!

AFK Callagadra challenge cold Blade Spirits Trickster, died at the end - YouTube

[GIJW]

it is 9 times as fast as VF build! if it would have survived

[mad_lee]

@ContragorX

No, but here, many players are constantly looking for various builds to try. Someone might actually decide that just because the build achieves a 2 min Calla AFK kill it’s a good candidate for doing it in HC for example.

I sincerely hope nobody ever thinks of actually trying those builds

[ContragorX]

@GIJW

Do you really think that someone would sink that many hours into farming and making one of these builds just to make a 6 min afk calla kill? xD

You bet! I lost count of how many times I saw threads like “I tried this build vs X boss, thought it was very tanky and RIPed in HC”. And then you have to explain why it is silly to copy something out of context and make assumptions. But many players DO make such assumptions.