Build Compendium X (Forgotten Gods)

[omnitrio]

One moment plz
Could you give us example how to make application to compedium?

I don’t realy care about G-tag-system
If you want remake it I’ll support you

[Cinder]

My solution is just to DELETE gear tag system from compendium. I said it a couple of weeks ago out of frustration, but I’ve been thinking about it since then, and it seems like a decent solution to me. Current system functions more to differentiate builds that use MI vs builds that don’t, so my idea is to replace current (g4) and (g5) tags with (mi) to denote that they use MIs, and the (g3) tag will be replaced with nothing. (g1) and (g2) I’ll deal with since there aren’t many of them

I like it a lot.

Maybe the (mi) tag could be extended upon a little bit with a (mi+) for ‘needs 1 rare affix’ & (mi++) for ‘needs 2 or more rare affixes’?

I also wonder if extra tags like (conduit) or, if you wanted to merge this category with those for e.g. superboss items & stuff, (rare leg) or just (rare) / (infr) [for ‘infrequent purple’], would be useful, too – or just bloat the entry size too much.

A short explanation for the curious on how difficult certain categories of gear is to find would probably still exist in the place of the old (g1-5) legend anyways, right?

[omnitrio]

Maybe the (mi) tag could be extended upon a little bit with a (mi+) for ‘needs 1 rare affix’ & (mi++) for ‘needs 2 or more rare affixes’?

Just from this we try to get away
Any item have 2 affixes
And some person will to prove that his MI need one rare affix, not two, so he has mi+ or not mi++

What’s why @Stupid_Dragon offer very simple idea
Have MI = MI-tag
Don’t have MI = NO-MI-Tag
And don’t care what affixes have MI item

I also wonder if extra tags like (conduit)

MI tag only for green items

[Cinder]

Just from this we try to get away
Any item have 2 affixes
And some person will to prove that his MI need one rare affix, not two, so he has mi+ or not mi++

I get the desire for a simpler system, but the fact still remains that in 95% of the cases, rare affixes are much harder to attain than just a single MI

Edit: Thus denoting that on the tag might still be useful.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I mean, showing people how easy a build is to complete is the whole point of gear tags, right? Changing it from (g4) to (mi) is, as far as I understand it, just a way to tell newer people that builds using MIs aren’t neccessarily harder to complete than others.

[omnitrio]

what can be simpler?

have Mi item = Mi Tag
don’t have Mi item = No Mi Tag

As for me it is simplest system

[Cinder]

Yes, I agree with benefits of its simplicity – I just try to consider its utility

Edit: see the edit in my above post. Lol.

Yo dawg, there’s an edit in your edit…

[Stupid_Dragon]

A short explanation for the curious on how difficult certain categories of gear is to find would probably still exist in the place of the old (g1-5) legend anyways, right?

In case my plan is in effect there would be one Gear Availability memo and that’s it.

I also wonder if extra tags like (conduit) or, if you wanted to merge this category with those for e.g. superboss items & stuff, (rare leg) or just (rare) / (infr) [for ‘infrequent purple’], would be useful, too – or just bloat the entry size too much.

You basically want to somewhat rebrand and repair the g-tag system rather than hard remove it. E.g. I can just unite current g1 and g2 and downgrade all non-conduit non-doublerare green into new g2 instead. It will alleviate some of the issues, sure.

[omnitrio]

You basically want to somewhat rebrand and repair the g-tag system rather than hard remove it. E.g. I can just unite current g1 and g2 and downgrade all non-conduit non-doublerare green into new g2 instead. It will alleviate some of the issues, sure.

It is the same medal but other side with all trouble of this medal
I vote for the new Mi-No-Mi-System

[Cinder]

You basically want to somewhat rebrand and repair the g-tag system rather than hard remove it. E.g. I can just unite current g1 and g2 and downgrade all non-conduit non-doublerare green into new g2 instead. It will alleviate some of the issues, sure.

With a focus on the ‘repair’ bit, yes.

But yeah, maybe that would just end up in the same convoluted mess we’re in right now…

Whatever you decide to do, I definitely vote to abolish the old system.

[Nery]

Do you think it’s worth it to have short description of gear under active and passive skills instead of tag?

You can explain it like full random drop legendary items or legendary+ 1 MI green without must affixes or legendary gear+conduit. Instead of checking gear and head bang which is your tag, you can write short explanation. I mean people will have idea what is the core of the build and it will not be even that bloated.

[omnitrio]

Do you think it’s worth it to have short description of gear under active and passive skills instead of tag?

NO
Let it be on 1st thread post

Also it must be explain in build thread

[Nery]

Do you think it’s worth it to have short description of gear under active and passive skills instead of tag?

NO
Let it be on 1st thread post

Also it must be explain in build thread

Well it’is explained in the thread, I am talking about short description. But Idk, no gear tag will do the same job, cause people will still go in the thread and will see the GT link.

[x1x1x1x2]

My solution is just to DELETE gear tag system from compendium.

Fuck yeah, I seriously like that.

Now I can finally try to make a build with 13 MIs and no one would call it g8

[Nery]

My solution is just to DELETE gear tag system from compendium.

Fuck yeah, I seriously like that.

Now I can finally try to make a build with 13 MIs and no one would call it g8

Well G6 is plane, so you can’t go higher than that

[x1x1x1x2]

I’M SERIOUS

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2p8qOp2

Now @Zantai can we have some green relics? I know deathstalker is technically MI but I want greeeeeeeeeen

[Stupid_Dragon]

I’M SERIOUS

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2p8qOp2

Now @Zantai can we have some green relics? I know deathstalker is technically MI but I want greeeeeeeeeen

Looks pretty budget.

[Cinder]

I’M SERIOUS

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2p8qOp2

That res overcap though

It’s beautiful! Does it work, too?
And why Milton’s over Chosen Mask (maybe even with Celestial prefix)?
I know this is just a meme build, but I can’t… hold back… the urge… to min/max…

On topic:

Well it’is explained in the thread, I am talking about short description. But Idk, no gear tag will do the same job, cause people will still go in the thread and will see the GT link.

I would be ok with this as well; but you’d probably have to somehow standardise those descriptions again, and that sounds like exactly the kind of mess Stupid_Dragon is trying to get us out of here

[x1x1x1x2]

That res overcap though

Gotta prepare for pvp with players having 150 RR

It’s beautiful! Does it work, too?

Haven’t even played yet

And why Milton’s over Chosen Mask (maybe even with Celestial prefix)?
I know this is just a meme build, but I can’t… hold back… the urge… to min/max…

cause 0.5 seconds cooldown on box doesn’t really do anything once you’ve already stacked 3 tethers, electrocute isn’t really the best thing in the world and aetherial damage is always useful for lightning since valdaran is a bitch.

Looks pretty budget.

I mean, MIs are easier to find than legendaries!!

[omnitrio]

I mean, MIs are easier to find than legendaries!!

[mad_lee]

Hey, Stupid Dragon, this time it’s a really complicated hard to play build!

• [Melee] [g3] [c+] [sr] [1.1.4.1] Spinning Opression: 6:20 150-170 Crucible, 8 seconds Mad Queen, Shards 65-66 viable no greens EoR Opressor (Mad_Lee)
• Damage: Physical, bit of Internal Trauma
• Active Skills: Eye of Reckoning, Ascension, Judgment, Vire’s Might, Displacement, Bone Harvest, Mark of Torment
• Passive Skills: Summon Guardian of Empyrion, Spectral Binding, Presence of Might x2, Presence of Virtue, Divine Mandate