Build Compendium X (Forgotten Gods)

Hey Stupid Dragon, please add my new builds to the compendium!

  • [Caster] [1.1.4.0] (g3) (c+) (vid) The Undead Shinobi of Cairn - PB Reaper, Gladiator in ~ 6 minutes (Nery)

    • Damage: Vitality
    • Active Skills: Phantasmal Blades, Ring of Steel, Ravenous Earth, Pneumatic Burst, Mark of Torment, Displacement, Blade Spirits
    • Passive Skills: Harbinger of Souls, Veil of Shadow, Spectral Binding, Presence of Might x2, Eldritch Ruminations
    • WPS Skills: none
  • [DW Melee] [1.1.4.0] (g4) (c+) (vid) Vileblade DW Acid Witch Hunter (Nery)

    • Damage: Acid,Poison
    • Active Skills: Amarasta’s Blade Burst, Bloody Pox, Blood of Dreeg, Pneumatic Burst, Blade Spirits, Curse of Frailty, Shadow Strike, Displacement
    • Passive Skills: Veil of Shadow, Envenomed Weapons x2, Possession
    • WPS Skills: Execution, Whirling Death, Belghotian’s Shears, Amarasta’s Quick Cut
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  • [2H Melee] [1.1.4.1] (g3) (sr) World On Fire - Fire FW Commando (afanasenkov26)

    • Damage: Fire, Burn
    • Active Skills: Forcewave, Shar’zul’s Wrath, Blitz, Blackwater Cocktail, Thermite Mine, Flashbang, Displacement
    • Passive Skills: Oleron’s Wrath, Flame Touched, Vindicative Flame, Field Command, Burning Weapons
    • WPS Skills: none
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  • [DW Melee] [1.1.4.1] (g3) (c+) (vid) Pure E Fiah - Dual Wield Melee Purifier (malawiglenn)

    • Damage: Fire
    • Active Skills: Fire Strike, Thermite Mine, Flashbang, Inquisitor Seal, Word of Renewal, Rush
    • Passive Skills: Flame Touched, Vindicitive Flame, Aura of Censure, Deadly Aim, Blast Shield, Serenity
    • WPS Skills: Burning Void x 2, Korvaak’s Brand

Thanks in advance!

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can someone point me to a Retaliation build?

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ok I did that, but I was looking in the wrong place, I was looking for damage type like pets to be Retaliation

This was added to build submission guide.

All mentions of Presence of Might, Whirling Blades, Chilling Weapons, etc were purged.


Given the recent problems with grimtools availability from now on it is mandatory to have a screenshot of your in-game character sheet (gear + page 1) in your build thread. Builds already submitted can stay as is.
I’ll accept build submissions without grimtools link while it is down.


I’m also looking into further improvements on ease of submission and readability front. For now I’m thinking how to deal with WPS Skills: None line - it clutters compendium quite a bit.

Two solutions I came up with are:

  • Move WPS into passive skills
  • Remove WPS Skills line if there are none

Example 1:

  • [DW Melee] [1.1.1.2] (g3) (c+) (sr) (vid) Cholol, the Breathtaking - Deathmarked Blademaster, Gladiator (6:08) and SR 80 viable (veretragna)

    • Damage: Cold
    • Active Skills: Cadence, Shadow Strike, Amarasta’s Blade Burst, Ring of Steel, Pneumatic Burst, Reaper’s Mark, Icechill, Blade Spirit
    • Passive Skills: Field Command, Fighting Spirit, Veil of Shadow, Oleron’s Rage, Markovian’s Advantage, Belgothian’s Shears, Whirling Death, Execution

Example 2:

  • [2H Melee] [1.1.4.1] (g3) (sr) World On Fire - Fire FW Commando (afanasenkov26)

    • Damage: Fire, Burn
    • Active Skills: Forcewave, Shar’zul’s Wrath, Blitz, Blackwater Cocktail, Thermite Mine, Flashbang, Displacement
    • Passive Skills: Oleron’s Wrath, Flame Touched, Vindicative Flame, Field Command
  • Move WPS into passive skills
  • Remove WPS Skills line if there are none

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@Stupid_Dragon , please keep WPS line if your character have them in the submission!

In current days with the search ability in the forum, the compendium isn’t that mandatory, but is still the easiest to access database for all the builds posted in the forum.

So can we keep the old approach? And WPS just write: None.

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So, the currently winning poll option? Sure, it’ll probably be the case.

Why would you want to keep WPS Skills: none?

It doesn’t really matter to me if you write none or just empty space. But some people might think, the builder forgot to include it, after so much time of being in the compendium.

I think often changes of submissions format, can create confusions for non regular players and more importantly create extra workload for you, Stupid Dragon!

I think you’re overthinking it. Pretty sure most people read only Damage type and Active Skills at best when looking for a build to play.

If the “Remove WPS Skills line if there are none” keeps winning then the only change to submission format would look like that:

  • If your build got no WPS Skills then this line should be omitted

As for buildmakers who’re not aware of that I’ll just simply remove it myself from their submission. I fix ppl’s typos all the time anyway.

It would take a hour at best for me, but potentially save time for other people who read through the compendium.

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OK, @Stupid_Dragon , good arguments, I agree. So no problems with your proposed changes!

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  • [2H melee/caster] [1.1.4.1] (g3) (c ) (sr+) Piercing elements with 2H melee/caster tactician (banana peel)

    • Damage: Pierce
    • Active Skills: Cadence, Inquisitor Seal, Rune of Haggard, Word of Pain, Stormbox of Elgoroth, War Cry, Word of Renewal, Blitz, Displacement
    • Passive Skills: Deadly Momentum, Deadly Aim, Aura of Conviction, Menhir’s Will
    • WPS Skills: None
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WPS Skills: none had been removed from compendium.

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Hey, Stupid Dragon, can you add this latest beast of mine to the compendium, please!

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  • [2H Melee] (g3) [c+] [sr] High Voltage - PS Warder (afanasenkov26)

    • Damage: Lightning, Electrocute
    • Active Skills: Primal Strike, Savagery, Blitz, Wind Devil, Aether Corruption
    • Passive Skills: Storm Pact, Aura of Storm, Field Command, Mogdrogen’s Pact
    • WPS Skills: None
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Hello, Val. Updated my Warlock guide

  • [Caster] [1.1.4.0] (g3) (c+) (SR+) (vid) SERIOUS SAM - Warlock, superboss killer (Dmt)

    • Damage: Lightning, Electrocute, Cold, Frostburn
    • Active Skills: Trozan’s Sky Shard, Sigil of Consumption, Course of Fragility, Aether Corruption, Mirror of Ereoctes, Nulification, Chain Lightning, Blood of Dreeg, Ulthos’ Arrival.
    • Passive Skills: Star Pacr, Maiven’s Sphere of Protection, Iscandra’s Elemental Exchange.
    • WPS Skills: none
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Hi again! I’ve got another build for the collection:

  • [Caster] [1.1.4.1] (g4) (c+) (sr+) (vid) The 'Za-Lord – Valguur Conjurer, Full Sigil Vitality Leechtank. Crucible 6:30. (Cinder)

    • Damage: Vitality, Vitality Decay
    • Active Skills: Sigil of Consumption, Storm Totem, Wendigo Totem, Devouring Swarm, Curse of Frailty, Bloody Pox, Blood of Dreeg, Upon Rylok Wings, Solael’s Flame, Mogdrogen’s Pact
    • Passive Skills: Possession, Solael’s Witchfire
    • WPS Skills: None

Thanks for all the work! :slight_smile:

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Hey there, I’ve got two announcements.

I’ll be going on vacation for a week starting this saturday. I’ll probably keep visiting the forum, but I won’t be adding builds during this period, since smartphone is inconvenient for edits. During this period I won’t be adding any builds (you’re free to submit them though).

I really feel like something needs to be done about gear tag system, details below.

First of all, to deter all “Why don’t leave it as is” questions. Current system does more harm than good:

  1. It straight up DECEIVES people on gear dependency. It’s easy to assume that the higher the number the more gear dependant the build is, as well as builds within the same category are more or less equal in terms of gear dependency. Both are FAR from truth. Some people swear they are good as guidelines, but they aren’t really.
  2. It is taxing on the new builders since they need to read through existing g-tag rules, which became quite bloated after my attempt to fix the system. Some people just mess up classifying their builds still.

So no, I won’t leave it be as is, period.

Particular problems with current system, by category:

  1. Almost no g1 builds submitted. It’s a faction gear category, and I believe Builds for Beginners section proven to be enough of a pivot to these kinds of build, to the point that most builds in this section aren’t even submitted into main compendium (which I’m ok with).
  2. Almost no g2 builds submitted, for the same reasons as above.
  3. g3 category houses a wide range of builds that have a wildly varying gear dependency:
  • Builds that could be easily translated into gear-less versions.
  • Builds that only show a speck of it’s power without some of the used gear pieces.
  • Builds that don’t make sense without some of the used gear pieces.
  • Builds that require completely different skill / devotion setup for levelling.
  • Builds that only use one commonly dropped legendary
  • Builds that use Conduits you’d spend hours to farm and then tons of resources to craft one with affixes you need
  • Builds that use gear dropped from superbosses, which a given character may or may not be able to farm
  1. g4 is a MI category, but people kept pointing out that it’s silly because some MIs are easier to get than legendaries
  2. g5 has a same problem as g4 basically, added the fact that two particular MIs do not necessarily make a build more gear dependant than a single one, depending on MIs in question.

Now for the SOLUTION.

My solution is just to DELETE gear tag system from compendium. I said it a couple of weeks ago out of frustration, but I’ve been thinking about it since then, and it seems like a decent solution to me. Current system functions more to differentiate builds that use MI vs builds that don’t, so my idea is to replace current (g4) and (g5) tags with (mi) to denote that they use MIs, and the (g3) tag will be replaced with nothing. (g1) and (g2) I’ll deal with since there aren’t many of them.

This way the current practice of using gear tag system will be preserved, while the confusing arcane facade will be gone.

But well, it’s a community compendium, so it would be unfair if I did it just on my own. You’re free to suggest an ALTERNATIVE. If your suggestion is realistic enough I’ll consider it instead of hard removal. You’ve got at least a couple of weeks to think about it.

No poll this time - you want to object you give me an alternative.

Thank you for attention.

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Please add my build. Thank you for your work!