MIs are “discriminated” against because builds that use “far from ideal” MIs are a very rare exception - most of the time that MI is gd-stashed with bullshit affixes or a lucky drop over a big number of farm runs in Crucible. What’s worse is it isn’t black and white and between MIs with crap affixes and best case MIs there’s a large spectrum of “normal” MIs - from somewhat farmable in a week to rather lucky drops. There’s also a difference in standards. Some people call a budget MI what I would call a lucky find. To avoid (or at least minimize) the arbitry from my side on whether this MI is really budget or not the gear tag system is reasonably formalized. If it’s a build with at least one random drop legendary it’s a g3 build, even if the rest of items are faction gear. If a build has at least one random drop legendary and one MI it’s a g4 build regardless of affixes.
I did allow “budget” MIs in g1 and g2, but that was because I believe that someone who’s aiming for such a build would have enough wisdom to determine what kind of MI would make sense to include, and there aren’t many g1/g2 builds submitted anyway. As a result the extra load on me due to arbitry is pretty much non-existant.
g3 and g4 is a completely different business. While g1 and g2 is a beginner build category, so those who want their build to land there would want to make it cheaper. From g3 and onwards is a high end build category where people show off their results, they won’t be quite as shy when selecting affixes.
So no, MIs in g3 ain’t happening, I’m keeping it binary for my peace of mind.
This will be added to FAQ.
Perhaps, but I honestly don’t want to make a speedrun out of SR75 as it is now with Crucible. That’s ofcourse my personal view of it, so if enough people start pressing me I might review it. But that would mean a new Compendium thread ofcourse, since “all tags must mean the same across all submissions” is a cornerstone thing in my mind.
Conduits never were mentioned, for the compendium purpose it’s just another legendary, even if that particular combo of affix and prefix might be absolutely required. Badge of Mastery was mentioned in compendium before I laid my hands on it and it was classified as a g3 thing, since g3 allows legendary items by default I decided it’s not worth a mention.
Stoneplate Boots was something I indeed changed at some point.
history
- They were allowed before I took charge regardless of affixes (as a special mention similar to Badge of Mastery)
- When discussing tags here I learned that good stoneplates require thousands of them crafted, so perhaps double rare stoneplates should be g4
- Later I had a chat on that topic and for some reason it was harder to explain than I thought. Not the reason behind it but how to classify builds now.
- A question also arisen on whether a double rare stoneplates with one affixes you don’t care about should be g3 or not (yeah, same tune as budget MIs in g3)
- I decided it’s going to be a pain the the ass and reverted it to how it was before.
TL;DR Stoneplates are g3 regardless of affixes.
Double-checked explanation for (g3) in compendium, yeah I think in my pursuit for shorter text without redundant parts it became a bit confusing, so I’ll rewrite it to make it clear.
Thanks, will be fixed.
On your submitted builds - a bit behind the build adding schedule (last one I added is Shoot’s Boatman of Styx), everything will be added in a swoop tomorrow evening (EU one).
On leaderboard project - I’m putting it on hold for now. I’ve acknowledged the poll results, but I’m not a mood to make a new thread at the moment. The whole discussion on that a week ago was a bit draining to be honest, so my motivation took a hit, sorry.
On how we could make compendium better - I think mentioning activable component buffs like Presence of Might, Whirling Blades, Arcane Resonance or Aether-Ward should be abolished, because noone would be searching a build using these as keywords.
- Yes, abolish activable component buffs in submissions
- No, they should stay
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