Class Announcement: The Necromancer(s) - MOD

[Atrosatiro]

SoOo with the modkit juuuuust around the corner - ooo cant wait - I’ve decided to announce my planned Class Mod, the first two classes anyhoo! Neither of the classes will be “Necromancer” but instead “Bone-Charmer” and “Plague-Bearer” and together it will label you Necromancer.

First off…

Class: Bone-Charmer.

Type: Pet-based (heavily.)

Damages: Aether, vitality, cold.

-Skill Examples-

Death’s Touch: a default attack replacer that follows a line similar to Soldier’s skill Cadence but instead does cold and vitality damage. Trasmuter will add a enemy-slowing and weakening effect at the cost of damage. Like Cadence it’ll have a passive that adds an area-effect.

Aether Tendrils: Like the component counterpart but upgradeable, upgrades that include branching out (like torrent for Primal Strike,) and life-stealing properties.

Skeletal Knight: A Tank type pet and the first you’ll learn, it does moderate damage but has a high amount of health. As you invest points it will learn “Deathly Shriek” which works about the same as Soldier’s Warcry with the Terrify transmuter - taunting with a chance of fear. Along with learning Blade Arc (with cooldown) the branch also leads to Aetherial Revenant which trades off the Skeletal Knight’s physical damage with atherial - (25%/50%/75%.)

Skeletal Priest: Works the same as the enemy but heals you and your allies. Later learns "Specter’s Resilience” a buff that promotes energy regeneration and gives a healthy boost to armor and defensive ability.

Skeletal Archer: Attacks at ranged, as the mob. Skeletal Archer’s attacks will have a slowing effect, pinning or even knockdown. Along the branch it will learn Bolt Burst, making them attack much faster for a brief amount of time. At the end of their chain they will get a “Deathbolt” aura skill, granting nearby allies cold and Aether damage.

Skeletal Warlock: Attacks enemies with potion skills at range while also debuffing and damaging with weaker versions of Occultist’s Sigil of Consumption and Curse of Frailty.

Skeletal Gargantuan: An end tier summon that’s timed but otherwise will work the same way as the in-game mob.

Vampiric Miasma: The Bone-Charmer’s Exclusive skill. This skill, a toggle-aura, will not only sap those close to the Bone-Charmer of health but also fear them. It will cost health-per-second as well as the usual reserved mana.

Class: Plague Bearer.

Type: Damage/Pet-based.

Damages: Poison/Acid/Bleeding.

-Skill Examples-

Zombies: Summon up to three zombies. Along the branch the zombies will learn to throw poison and vomit acid, each with a cool-down. Zombies are weaker than other summons but the end skill of their branch grants them a small chance to return as a corpsefiend – (10%/20%/30%.)

The Long Arm of Dreeg: a default attack replacer that with two-handed weapons grants acid and bleeding damage to your attacks. Following this branch grants the skill life-stealing properties but also ends with “Plague Lord” a skill that gives your attacks a small chance to infect enemies with a minor version of Occultist’s Bloody Pox.

Fog of the Weeping Death: an area effect spell, this summons a small cloud of noxious fumes that paralyze enemies trapped in it. Advancing in this spell grants the cloud both poison and bleeding damage and a transmuter that enlarges the cloud but weakens it to a degree.

Tainted Blood: a toggle-weapon based skill, Tainted Blood grants the Plague Bearer’s weapons vitality and acid damages, with poison and internal trauma as an advancement. Tainted Blood will have a transmuter that lessens the damages you do but grants your allies a portion of the power.

Amalgamation: An end tier timed summon of the Amalgamation boss. Mostly will do poison/acid/vitality damage instead of Aether, but otherwise acts the same as the in-game mob.

Wheeelp, that’s all I have for now! What do you guys think? Are these classes something you’d like to play? And ideas or suggestions?

[Cepheiden]

And ideas or suggestions?

Yeah, if the mod is anything like your ability to write and format a text, please don’t release it.

[Caudheur]

SoOo with the modkit juuuuust around the corner - ooo cant wait - I’ve decided to announce my planned Class Mod, the first two classes anyhoo! Neither of the classes will be “Necromancer” but instead “Bone-Charmer” and “Plague-Bearer” and together it will label you Necromancer.

First off…

Bone-Charmer: The bone-charmer will be, you guessed it, a charmer of bones - a summoner. They will start out with an default attack replacer (Death’s touch) that follows a similar line of soldiers cadence except will do cold and vitality damage with a transmuter that adds a slowing + weakening effect at the cost of damage.
Damage is a sort of sore trade off to slow your enemies down, but that brings us to your main source of damage if you go that route - The Skeleton Knight. One of the first pets you’ll learn - there will be four - is your tank, a skeletal knight. High health and moderate damage this pet will be at the front lines reaping your foe for you (perhaps with a fancy 2hd scythe, but if not the usual sword/shield combo.) The Skeleton Knight will follow a similar path as the Briarthorn and Hellhound, gaining a version of Soldier’s Warcry, Deathly-Shriek. It’s taunt skill will be the first it learns, which will lead on to an area-effect attack and an armor boosting passive. Skeleton Knight won’t get an aura effect but will get a transmuter “Aetherial Revenant” that with three points exchanges 75% of physical damage to Aether damage.
The third first skill is a spammable attack skill along the same lines of Aether Tendril. It’ll will upgrade similar to Shamans Primal Strike with a torrent effect and life-stealing properties - it will double as a healing spell for you - and too will have a transmuter but one that adds a short cooldown for relative to the boost in damage, thinking 3 points too.
Okay, back to the summons! Bone-Charmer isn’t going to be an attack-skill based class and will rely on it’s summons and weapons for self perseverance, which the second tier summon will come in handy for that. The Skeleton Priest: As you can see this is mostly following the Undead mobs you fight and the priest will be the same - except his buffs and healing will be for you! This guy is pretty straightforward in he’ll keep your knight slaughtering with his heal skill. Along the way he’ll learn a buff too, one that boosts energy-regeneration and armor. No third or transmuter here - his job is to keep you alive and he’ll focus on it!
Third tier summon will be your Skeleton Archer. Naturally he’ll come with slowing hits, which will be helpful if you prefer to keep enemies at range, but as you progress he’ll get a volley attack and…-drumroll- an aura! Name to be decided, but it’ll effectively turn your archer into a Deathbolt Archer, granting nearby allies with cold & aetherial damage (to mix things up a bit.)
And lastly for the all-the-time summons is your Skeleton Warlock, who will toss damaging potions at your foe and will learn a softer version of Sigil of Consumption (so not to overshadow Occultists) and a “Feverish Rage” technique that speeds up their attack-speed briefly so they can rain death down on your foes!
While your Warlock is the last of the permanent summons at the very end of the tree Bone-Charmer will be able to learn a timed summon, a skill that will allow them to rise up a Skeletal Gargantuan.
Too at the end will be their Exclusive skill, “Vampiric Miasma” a toggle “aura” skill that constantly saps life-force from those who get too close and fears those who attack you, a powerful skill, but at the cost of health-per-second as well as the customary chunk of spirit.
Well, that’s what I got for Bone-Charmer for now! -and if you’re still with me, on to Plague-Bearer!

Plague-Bearer: While the Bone-Charmer was almost entirely focused on their pets, the Plague-Bearer will be the opposite with one +3 zombie pet and one timed Amalgamation pet. Firstly I’ll get your zombies out of the way… They’ll either be first or second tier and at 15 points in you’ll get three of them. Along their chain they’ll get both a “Throw Guts” acid/poison attack and a “Ghastly Projection” throw-up attack that does physical and poison damage. The coolest skill, I think, I’m going to try to give them is a passive that gives them a 5-10-15-20% chance upon death to come back as a corpse-fiend. Naturally your zombies won’t be as strong as the only-one summons, but they’ll come in handy thinning out the horde.
As for the majority of Plague-Bearer’s skills they’ll be either poison/acid/vitality(decay)/or bleeding - with poison and bleeding being the main two.
Their first skill will be default attack replacer “The Long Arm of Dreeg*” a two-handed only skill (maybe, if we can do that for DAR skills) that will do a base acid damage with some bleeding on top. Along the chain this skill will get a minor life-stealing effect, or perhaps a random-effect chance and lastly will get a plague chance, that will act in a similar manner to Occultists Bloody-Pox but to a lesser degree (so, again, not to overshadow and be overpowered). Next will be “Fog of the Weeping Death” a cloud of paralyzing miasma that causes bleeding to those stuck in it. To make things balanced the fog will start out small requiring some investing to make it truly devastating. Around third tier the Plague-Bearer will get “Poisoned Blades” a weapon enchantment that works in a similar way to Solael’s Witchfire but with, you guessed it, poison/bleed damage. It’s transmuter, however will work like Arcanists, granting a part of that boost to their pets by sacrificing the effect it has on their own weapons.
Lastly is your Amalgamation timed summon, but that’s pretty straightforward, though it probably wont have the aetherial skills but plague related ones instead, acid rain or something.

Wheeelp, that’s all I have for now! What do you guys think? Are these classes something you’d like to play? And ideas or suggestions?

Sounds great! Will have to see for balance, but I really like the idea of a more necrotic class, so go for it

[Atrosatiro]

Yeah, if the mod is anything like your ability to write and format a text, please don’t release it.

Ouch, my apologies for being busy and wanting to quickly jut my idea down. Well, you know where you can shove your opinion right back where it came from - your ass. But, hell, if you have anything constructive to say then by all means please do… just leave the negativity at the gates, eh? I’ll get to rewriting it in a bit.

[Atrosatiro]

Sounds great! Will have to see for balance, but I really like the idea of a more necrotic class, so go for it

Balance will be an issue I’ll probably seek some help/feedback with, this is going to be my first go at modding and I don’t want to make anything overpowered which is too easy to do. that and more balanced skills overall so they’re all useful.

[Darkblade_305]

I understood that Crate will make a necromancer or similar class in the future.

[Duck_King]

Try to think outside the square. You are using hordes of enemies that are pre-existing in the game as allies. Too many in fact, it’s absurd. You do realise that 3 pets are capable of taking out 90% of the content in a matter of seconds.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25495&highlight=unholy+trinity

This is an example of a “necromancer” that I would support. The revenants can be modified to look a little different to in-game models. Try to limit it to 3 pets max. The game would not handle your idea of a necro specially on multiplayer.

[Atrosatiro]

Try to think outside the square. You are using hordes of enemies that are pre-existing in the game as allies. Too many in fact, it’s absurd. You do realise that 3 pets are capable of taking out 90% of the content in a matter of seconds.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25495&highlight=unholy+trinity

This is an example of a “necromancer” that I would support. The revenants can be modified to look a little different to in-game models. Try to limit it to 3 pets max. The game would not handle your idea of a necro specially on multiplayer.

While I agree that Necromancer is well thought out, I would like to play it, I don’t think my version is exactly absurd. The reason I put those pre-existing enemies as allies is because I like the way they work as enemies. If I balance them right they won’t be so over-powered that they slaughter everything either, but if I make them like the Hellhound or Briarthorn, yeah I could see how that’d be a problem. Though, as for the game not handling it I don’t think that’s quite right… I play multiplayer as a summoner all the time without trouble, and my summoner has more than four pets.