Can´t say for sure about Blade Barrier. But as I said a while ago:
Blade Barrier doesn´t really help…it just gives me another 3 seconds to throw my mouse through the room…
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Why do you think I am offering my save file?
I am making the case off of the fact that if I can do it with a much weaker build, I can’t take your complaint seriously.
If you want to argue here, prove to me that my build in question is stronger than all these builds you tested and had problems against Grava on.
Otherwise it is just whining at this point.
Yes, I remember. But you need to remind us this evergreen 
This argument is becoming annoying. Do you not see how your logic is flawed? I am not arguing that your particular build is weak or strong. I am saying you can’t draw conclusion based on that one performance.
Like, do you hear yourself? “I have completed Shard 75 with Grava with a gimmicky build, ergo Grava and Shards are absolutely fine”.
So I have to prove to you that your particular build is stronger because…? What?
Because it sounds to me like the problem is not Grava, but your builds.
So you are taking shots at my credibility as a builder? LMAO.
If I have to, then yes.
After reading this novel, feel like I should make comment. Sorry impartial spectators.
Pets are completely different part of the game. They have different strong and weak points compared to other builds.
I trust that @Maya can make tanky pet build that can beat Grava even if the concept is gimmicky like Purifier.
But have play multiple builds in SR and agree with @mad_lee and problems are not with the build, but with Grava mechanics. It just one shoot you, no matter how much layer of defense you have and gives you no particular chance and way to react as melee.
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I am willing to accept that. But like I said, I have troubles against different bosses with the same builds that the ones getting one shotted by Grava might faceroll.
So feel like pointing at Grava alone is not fair.
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I don’t think that I need to prove my credibility as one of the top-builders at this point, not to you, not to anyone.
If you think my builds are not good enough, and this and not Grava or imbalance of SR is the problem, it’s your right.
I think everyone needs to chill and remember the first line of the forum rules.
“The rules are simple: use common sense, respect the ideas of others even if you disagree with them, …”
Otherwise this thread is heading for closure.
Well, weren’t you the one who was trying to convince me in the first place?
I can’t do that based on your words alone.
Well, maybe take a look at dozens of my guides, where I actually post videos that prove my builds performance.
Alright, but how do they prove Grava is overtuned?
They prove my cred. But no amount of videos or successful endgame builds or other builders telling you that Grava/SR are a problem can outweigh a proving power of a single screenshot of a completed Shard 75, right?
Why do you think I offered you my save file multiple times?
I have been requested by multiple people if they could see my builds in action and I have always told them that my computer lags too much for me to do a video. But I have never turned down a request for a save file.
So again, feel free to test my build as much as you want, if you want to.
But you don’t. Instead you just want me to agree with you that Grava is for some reason overpowered compared to everything else in SR while my experiences, even with something like a Pet Purifier where the only pets are from items indicate that is simply not true.
So, while my area of expertise might be pets, all I can assume from this whole thing is that it is your builds. You don’t want to accept that? fine. But if you want to call Grava as the problem, I am afraid I will say that it is your builds.
If you want to meet in the middle and say that certain builds have trouble with certain bosses then that, we can agree with.
Of course one can just say “no its not a problem with grava it is a problem with your build” or vice versa.
It also boils down to what we vs. the devs wants with SR. Like how many builds should be able to do it, what kind of builds, how much randomness should there be, how many mistakes can one afford to make, etc
But every build and damage type have problems against certain type of bosses. Cold or Vitality have mega hard problems against Kuba, but other melee melts him in seconds. It’s natural thing. But Grava in SR isn’t hard for certain build, it have unfair mechanic, which renders completely useless all melee builds.
I said in SR for cold Deathmarked Blademaster, Kuba which is the hardest boss in Crucible is beatable, unlike Grava . So the problem is in Grava nullification in combination with insane damage, which one shot you through multiple layers of defense. Same thing apply to arcane mobs, which are hard to spot in the crowd.
Again, as I said, I don’t want to. Because I actually believe that that particular could do it without too much problems. But your faulty logic extrapolates that one example on every other non-pet build. I am really baffled that you can’t see how flawed is your logic there.
Again, if one gimmicky weak-ish build does not have problems with Grava, it does not mean every other build that is naturally stronger should also have no problems with it.
So you are saying that despite that you don’t have expertise in other builds beside pet builds you are assuming that problem is my builds? Do you see how stupid your assumption is?
Top non-pet builders: Grava is broken and imbalanced. We know that because we have tested him with different builds and we are the actual experts in endgame builds and we have proven that again and again by posting successful builds with videos and people who actually played our builds confirmed it many times.
Maya: I don’t know anything about non-pet builds but here is a screenshot of me beating Grava with no problem with a gimmicky pet build. Hence it must be your builds, guys!
