Hi!
Noticed that the damage of CT changes based on what was the last item applied to the character. I guess this should not matter.
BR,
Dantioch
Hi!
Noticed that the damage of CT changes based on what was the last item applied to the character. I guess this should not matter.
BR,
Dantioch
different types of conversion, so it changes based on slot priority
conduit has elemental conversion, medal has only lightning conversion
this is somewhat normal on elemental conversion/mixed elemental conversion and we even use it in certain specific cases
animation colour/fx swap depends on transmuter priority or last item equipped,
Meaning that if I want damage I have to say bye-bye for the beautiful chaos CT animation? kinda wierd…
Aether animation color
Chaos animation color
i can’t say anything about the FX swap interaction, Z said that’s just a collateral victim of the new system, so most FX’s were tried to be put in places that made sense to allow the intended FX (ex being callidor transmuter has no FX override now)
So it could be said you’re using an “unintended” medal for the build fx wise
but, why it’s “reversing” the slot priority dmg calc temporarily on reswap i don’t know/don’t remember what he said, when it was brought up last with a similar case
If the slot priority was set in stone chaos conduit should technically override dmg immediately on equip one would assume (thus also applying FX as last equip unless it goes by last slot nr order), but why it doesn’t for Callidor and a few other conduits i have no clue. It would perhaps suggest that there is slight more nuance to the slot priority calc or conduit with tri ele conversion affix is counted slightly different than other amulets (couldnt’ say/just rando thoughts)
but the FX swap ateleast makes sense under the new “guidelines”
do I get it right that in case we have ELEMENTAL to smthg conversion and LIGHTNING to smthg conversion for the same skill, the ELEMENTAL to smthg should take precedence over LIGHTNING to smthg?
it’s not really whether it’s elemental over lightning
but where the slot the conversion is on, in this case amulet slot > medal slot
zantai posted an order some time ago someone turned into a “schematic” for conversion priority on mono ele v tri ele
so if you had mono ele on amulet instead and tri ele on medal it would have been the other way/lightning should take precedent, because it’s earlier in the slot order
Thanks! I learn something new every day.
there’s still something iffy going on i think with conduit not immediately overriding the medal but requiring medal unequip or session restart, but as said unsure if there is something more nuanced going on behind the scenes, be it with conduit or certain skills(since it’s not the first time this has appeared)
This slot priority only applies to global conversion. For skill transmuters, Elemental take priority over Single elements by default (on session reset), but are actually dependent on the order in which items are equipped.
clearly not the case here
nor is it with bunch of other items that seem to follow slot priority still (on direct conversion i mean)
Clearly the case here.
On start video conduit have default priority as it ele-to-chaos.
0:07 reequiping conduit shift priority to medal lightning-to-aether.
0:14 reequiping medal return conduit priority.
yes, so it’s not following order of equip then?
because the last item does not apply the conversion, otherwise it would be reversed
nor is it the first as shown in the start
edit,
example of items following slot priority on restart
chaos dagger takes presedent over tri ele offhand
*and that’s also regardless whether the book is equipped first or last before restart
Let’s assume You’re right.
How do you explain that medal (4) takes priority over off-hand (2) after a restart?
Seems like we both are wrong, doesn’t it?
wdym taking over? there’s clearly some significant cold there?
which wouldn’t really be exaplined by the flats alone i assume?
meanwhile getting 2/3rds (18 on rank 2) + 100 flat cold can explain the aether discrepancy?
(medal is converting lightning+cold to aether, along with 100 cold, offhand is only converting fire(9 dmg) +50 aether = 59 v 118/100% difference), so i can make sense of that)
or that is; how do you explain my pic?
Do you speak English?
It doesn’t matter. Here is 2 differen order pics:
I think transmuter order more deep problem that meets the eye. Somithing like for Sets, orded by dbr ID or similar…
so like “oldest” item first perhaps?, (and then only in some cases too) ?
that would be mighty confusing if that’s the case @_@
you’re definitely right about something going on
if you use Crimson lightning sceptre(fire to lightning mod)+fleshwarped tome(elemental to aether mod) on relog you get mixed lightning+aether dmg, so sceptre mono conversion has an effect (similar as with the black flame dagger)
If you use pierce conduit (ele to pierce mod), and crimson sceptre, you get 0 lightning (likewise with black flame, 0 chaos on pierce conduit)
So here conduit tri ele is definitely taking over but the flesh offhand does not for whatever reason
edit.
i tried some more stuff with AAR, unless AAR is perhaps special/oversighted, it seems like offhands don’t count tri ele priority at all in this case (if it’s indeed supposed to be that tri ele takes over)
using ulzuin mark mono lightn->fire mod, inashkor and hallanx offhand also don’t take over tri conversion priority on restart, and fire dmg remains.
And once again using pierce trie conduit+fire medal, conduit tri ele does take over
dono if it means these mods are special, items are special/behind in transmuter priority, offhand is actually 4th in slot priority, or some AAR conversion mods interaction is different somehow