You ( and the others ) are absolutely right on this - i have 1k hours in grim dawn but for whatever reason i messed up viper & rhowans RR in this build assuming its the same (which i never did before idk what my mind decided to do here )
For cold theres no cheap way to supplement this via an augment and using a Mythical Eternal Band would be a downgrade i suppose as its also not really adding that much RR even with perfect rolls.
I think i have a solution in mind though.
I should stop hyperfocusing on combining leviathan & yugol for all the flat damage (which i already have plenty of by now) and rather drop yugol, which enables me to get rhowan whilst still having charriot and i should also be able to reintroduce atamok this way, so i dont lose that much sheet damage
Will also have limited effect since you only have ~70% weapon damage. Anyways, I think this is worthy of a separate thread, this thread is for top20 builds discussion. If you ever do achieve better results than we did with Chillwhisper let us know! Otherwise, @medea_fleecestealer , is it possible put this Custom Cold DE discussion into a separate thread, please?
Precisely my thoughts, and i gotta apologize for this as well, as i also felt that i was littering YOUR precious thread with way too much offtopic stuff here. Really wasnt intended in the first place.
Im not relucant to the idea of just deleting all my posts here in case this helps cleaning up.
Yep! Thatās what I didnāt get from the start about your approach. You take Yugol from DR, maybe life leech and thatās it . % damage is rarely the reason to take it because itās freely available anywhere else. You can even Spirit dump if you need more.
donāt need global leech with DE and donāt need dollar store Yugolās dr for dr, you got big omen. Plus Yugol doesnāt have dot damage (why, Crate??).
The original idea behind combining yugol & leviathan was actually the 2nd furthest node in yugol which adds flat cold damage and 8% lifesteal.
It stems from the early days of the build where my initial idea was only : combine 2 night heralds & the conduit, then stack flat damage.
But i guess i already have more than enough lifesteal anyways & the acid portion of the flat damage is irrelevant whilst the cold flat damage is roughly 1/5 of the portion e.g my relic gives me.
Long story short, bye yugol
Currently just thinking of an efficient way to bind devotions in the setup im currently toying with. Ill have amatok back in the mix, and i think ill-omen is the way to go here. Murmur is reserved for blade spirits and leviathan for DE, so ill have basically only bone harvest for rhowan (which id need to spam way more often now) or shadow strike (which should be the way, although it triggers only with roughly 70% certainty if bound to SS if i remember correctly from previous chars). Amatoks breath had the same chance if im correct.
Whirlpool on BH is not good imo because itās not like you want to spam BH. Only every 8s or so for the buff. Otherwise you lose channeling time
Whirlpool on Blade Spirits is not bad because if separate Spirits proc it, then the Frostburn from Whirlpool add up. Which is not the case when you proc as a player.
Dunno how many Blade Spirits you have there but 2 of them canāt maintain Murmur full time on a single target.
Yeah, as I said I donāt think itās a good idea
Remember that you have 2 chances with DW Shadow Strike so if it displays i.e. 70% itās actually 1 - (1-0.7)^2
You may not know that but I actually had DW Chillwhisper Reaper build on the forum. Imo it was optimal for a short time, before the game changed a lot , DE was buffed massively, Phys res disappeared etc. I had 43% - 67% Phys res on it depending on variant Which was actually needed for Calla then which DE way lower damage.
Yes but this would only shift the problem as we now need a reliable murmur proccer, which we dont have anymore.
Rumor & Rhowans have a shorter cooldown, but that wouldnt matter as their damage wont stack besides the nearly irrelevant flat elemental from rhowans. Amatok is technically also not bad here though as its basically critting all the time and thus triggering whenever its off cooldown.
I didnt consider that, in this case i guess ive made my decision. Although this would also mean hitting shadow strike more often than originally intended
With my Chillwhisper I think I had Elemental Storm on DW Shadow Strike I think in SR / for farming at least. 5s duration with like 98% proc chance or sth along those lines worked very well in this situation. On superbosses I might have different bindings due to longer duration of the fight of course.
Honestly, itās not even impossible that Nightfall can proc too, I remember reading it somewhere, separetly from Shadow Strike although it wouldnāt be another 70% chance but standard i.e. 25% chance (per target though since itās AoE). And single chance not 2. Heart of Wrath from Judgment procs too for example. In the end, testing is needed.
Anyway, different bindings for solo boss fights and for farming probably if wanting to be optimal.
idk what my mind decided to do here )
(wind devil style aura)
Which was actually needed for Calla then which DE way lower damage.