[Debate] S&B not much DPS ways to choose from

Hello fellow Grim Dawners.

I am currently playing a sword & board commando that started using Firestrike as main attack but was forced to switch to Cadence around level 30-32 (after reaching Arkovian foothills and Old Arkovia). I am not that fond of Cadence but I felt DPS-wise was pretty lacking with Firestrike (taking down those armored revenants at Veteran difficulty was such a PITA).

To keep things short: Using firestrike I was doing about 900+ DPS while after switching to Cadence I am doing 4000+ (Quite the difference, don’t you think?)

Sooooo… I am wondering if Firestrike could only be viable when using a 2-hander and that if you want to perform well for 1h+shield you MUST take Cadence.

What do you think? Let’s hear your opinions.

PS - This probably has been discussed earlier but I am too lazy to search the forums and now that v1.0.0.8 is looming in the horizon… :cool:

I have an Infernal Brimstone Commando and he’s pretty tanky and has a decent DPS.

I personally don’t have have a Fire S&B build but my friend used to play one with a green Obsidian Bulwark (Flamewall of something, Can’t remember the suffix)

While it is lacking compared to Cadence in single target, he said that you are pretty tanky and most importantly have more AoE. The build is pretty straightforward and i think Flamebreaker (epic item) works pretty well.

He got bored of using shield and hence switched to Brimstone as well.

Overall i think S&B Fire Strike is pretty decent

If anyone is wondering then yes, S&B Savagery Elementalist with Skybreach is pretty powerful.
Same for S&B Aether Battlemage and Witchblade (but it uses Cadence) using Will of the Living
And same for S&B Vitality Conjurer using Meat Shield

P.S
Brimstone build is pretty easy to make and very powerful. Most importantly, coming patch you get Shar’Zul’s World Eater the best weapon in the entire game in terms of coolness :cool:

Can confirm waht Chton said about Obsidian Bulwark. Just need good rols on it. Blitz had 70k Paper fire dmg in character menu which was impressive. You’ll need a good set though like Justice.

Fire strike on handed though is a bit meh. You’ll need lots of burn damage

My friend used Justicar set minus the helm (Ulzuin’s Helm), my Infernal Brimstone build uses Ulzuin set.

Both are good options

Is it really? :eek:

Never tried it (R.I.P good green items i got in succession, my luck has ended), so honest question.
Why burn? We have enough flat fire damage sources shouldn’t that be enough?

It just does a lot better with DW because of all the flat dmg but very little % weapon damage. That is why saboteurs are good. Execution gives the % weapon damage taht was needed.

Burn because if you are into fire it’s easy to get and can have ~45K dot. Kinda makes up for lack of burst damage in 1h fire strike

Don’t R.I.P your greens. A good green mi axe might do well who knows:p

So, If I have understood your posts correctly, Brimstone shines with Ranged weapons obviously. I was referring mainly to melee in my OP.

Anyway, I keep switching ranged/melee back and forth when necessity arises.

I have found that ranged Cadence isn’t bad per se with a 2H rifle, specially when you kite to have several targets in line.

Can confirm.

I start out using Firestrike on my SnB Commando and eventually was forced to switch to Cadence. DPS went WAY up with a more physical-oriented approach. I still have some sources of Fire damage to go along with it though.

And as a side fact. A sad one that is.

I am currently testing 2h firestrike elementalist. Weapon used is infernal brimstone.

Savagery without + skills does just as much fire/lightining damage as a fully decked out fire strike line…

This is a problem i think

Sure it’s doesn’t show explosive strike but still

How is the testing going?

I have Infernal Brimstone and thought about some kind of 2H melee Sorcerer that uses OFF to soften targets and Firestrike to bring the pain but I’m not sure it would work - it might be kind of squishy and I don’t know if the OFF fire debuff works on bosses.

OFF does not work on the bosses you want it to work. Unless youa re a cold buld and use stuff like night’s embrace amulet ability. You will be too squishy but you can still try it out for fun i guess.

Fire strike for 2h needs a buff.

Well savagery does have higher weapon damage. Interesting to see fire elementalist (never considered it before)
I have a pure physical elementalist :slight_smile:

Btw, it’s been mentioned Explosive strike will factor into calculation next patch :smiley:

I kind of figured. That’s why I decided not to spend 20+ hours leveling one!

Good to read this for me too.

I was going to give 2H FS a chance. As it stands right now, it seems a no go. Better going the Savagery way.

BTW: I am currently doing pretty fine with my level 41 Cadence 1H+Shield commando. I have even tanked some bosses just to try out my survival odds.

I am trying some form of 2H melee character soon, because I have never give 2H a try.