Deep-Six Behemoth : Devotion Help Sought

Hi all,

My levelling 2h Ranged Lightning Conjurer has all his Devotion points already in place, and assigned. I’m mostly OK with where they’re at, except I’d really like to deep-six Behemoth and replace it with Chariot of the Dead.

My issue is I need to find 1 more Devotion point (from the 6 for Behemoth to the 7 for Chariot for the same completion bonus), as well as another point of Ascendant/purple to be able to start Chariot.

I’ve racked my brain for literally over an hour trying various permutations, and the only way I can seem to make it happen is if i get rid of Bat - which I don’t want to do if at all possible because Twin Fangs is great.

Can anyone smarter than me figure out a viable way to achieve all the following outcomes :

  • Retain SotH, Ultos, Crown, Kraken, Widow and Bat as my ‘must haves’.
  • Picking up Chariot of the Dead

Everything else i’m happy to adjust.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gO03v2

I’ve tried everything I can think of - even subbing out SotH for Korvaak - but I can’t make it work unless I sacrifice Bat.

Appreciate any assistance.

Thanks.

Here’s one version https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lV7YA15N

[edit] 2nd one: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAd8G42

[edit] 3rd one: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/vNQLelRZ

But honesly I would go for Hydra if I were you with something like.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/DV9RA0xZ
I has great OA with Hydra, Viper, Hawk and is the cleanest with no Crossroads :slight_smile:

Btw maybe someone could write a program that lists all possible complete devotions sets containing a given subset of devotions.

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There is something like it that was posted on Reddit, but it doesn’t work with partial devotions. Still it has helped me with some imaginative solutions. Most of them end up using Lizard.

https://arctice.github.io/gd-starnav/

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It’s a shame the programmer set limit to 55.
Because if you wanted constellations with i.e. partial Ultos
then you could set devotion points to 56, pretend this 56-th point goes to Ultos free node and it would all work equivalently
as if you had 55 points and partial Ultos

[edit] I’ve written a mail to the programmer with a request of allowing higher max devo points for the reason I mentioned.

[edit2] I’ve used the program and it found the same devotion (-Sailor + Gallow) as my first
To achieve it, you need to

  • NOT select Crown because it’s partial

  • choose 53 points because we want 3 for partial Crown but we can take 1 from Ultos
    55 - (3 - 1) = 53

So as you can see, you can sometimes get around the program’s limitations.

Another possible hack:

  • taking Rat instead of Bat

  • finding constellation with full Ultos using the program

  • then taking 1 Ultos node and using it to transform Rat to Bat

Thanks for that. Much appreciated. I hadn’t even thought of Hydra - for some reason I had this idea that it was… well… s**t, but it actually seems somewhat decent - almost like Kraken-lite for ranged.

Now to decide if the awesome Chariot proc is worth giving up the %RR and OA from Viper plus the OA from Hawk…

Also, that’s a sweet tool linked above!

Nice route, I come up with this idea for the Malawiglenn’s Vindicator. Feels very good:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4Vxkm0b2

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Seems pretty optimal but… you can be more greedy and change Sailor to Panther!!!