Devotion Calculator / Planner on Google Docs

Hi All,

While there is a devotion planner on Grim Calc it doesn’t a) tell you what each constellation does, or b) tell you what affinities you need to unlock it.

So, I have put a spreadsheet together that gives you this information, in a simple format. It can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1klWeje6b18RodzPMmq0Czj7uunslTbH23BIJC2fIq90/edit?usp=sharing

This will help plan your route through the stars, and quickly show you what affinity you need to get to your goal.

If folk find this useful then I will expand it - include celestial powers, etc, and expand on the benefits gained.

Hopefully at some point this information will be incorporated into Grim Calc.

Hope that helps.

Best,
A.

Info is not complete on some of the devotion skills/nodes but it shows the required affinities and the rewarded ones. It also shows you how much affinity you have at the top, it just does not stop you from putting points anywhere you like even without affinity requirement.

You’re talking about the Grim Calc, I presume?

Yes, I know…my sheet isn’t designed to replace it but to supplement it. The fact that the Grim Calc allows you to assign points anywhere is an issue - you can’t plan because of that. And the fact that you have to read every single constellation to find the ones you want is the other issue. My sheet aims to address these two issues.

It shows the required affinities, in the same way the spreadsheet does. It doesn’t warn you if you don’t have enough affinities. It should make it clearer, but it shouldn’t block you completely, you should be able to assign points anywhere.

It does allow this because you can unlock a constellation, to get an ascendant point, then you can unlock a constellation that requires an ascendant point but gives 1 chaos and 1 eldritch, then unlock a constellation that requires a eldritch point but gives 2 chaos and 2 ascendant points.

Now you can close the second constellation because you already have enough chaos points to open the third constellation(but the constellation that makes you have enough points is the third constellation itself), and close the first constellation too, because you already have enough ascendant points as well. you will end up paying only half the price what you would’ve normally spent.

I don’t remember the details, you may also be able to close directly linked devotions as well(as in, you can end up with a single constellation in the end). The example I wrote should work, and some trickier stuff was possible too IIRC.

therefore

  • someone may have a illegal constellation that wouldn’t normally be considered valid, just because of the order they unlocked/respecced
  • you can build a devotion list ignoring the requirements and order, while keeping track of the affinities you earn and spent. if you have above 0 affinities in the end, you could find a way to create that devotion map, without having the main/starter constellations in the finished constellations.

I don’t know if this becomes something you don’t need when you have 50 devotion points, or if its been patched. but I have seen crazier min-maxing.

A lot of people also copy it directly from the game, so making them follow an order would not be fun.

reading my own post it sounds like I found the most obscure detail to avoid a work and rationalize it, which I recognize because I do it a lot.
But I have valid points!

and this is how I found the most obscure details to make a missing feature look like something intended.

I should make it obvious/have a red text and add the highlights for the “you don’t have enough points for this” part though, my fault there :smiley:

:eek: though to be serious for a sec, am working on the obvious missing features like the tooltips now and then this week. that should be available this weekend. (and other than the tool telling you shouldn’t open it, I don’t think there should be a limitation in these sandbox type of tools)

what I wanted to say was, requirements isn’t something that makes grimcalc useless for planning.
and honestly I agree that this way of listing devotions can be more useful with a spreadsheet-like interface(as opposed to the map we currently drag), not for the game but for a tool. where you search for the properties or affinities you want.

Good work btw, at least to look for damage types, something that’d take way more time on grimcalc. Thanks for the release.

sorry about the mess my post is :stuck_out_tongue:

Just downloaded a copy to keep handy on my desk
Thank you for a job well done.
All ways to find out things are good

Hi Stormcaller,

While we’re talking about additional features, would it be possible to have a running total of added benefits?

e.g. you take Lion, you gain:

4% health
8% defensive
10 spirit
100 health
15% to all damage

then you add Lizard, and you now have:

16 health regenerated per sec (10 + 6)
+30% constitution (15% + 15%)
Increases health regen by 15%
4% health
8% defensive
10 spirit
150 health (100 from Lion, 50 from Liz)
15% to all damage

…etc. This summary available at a glance, would be extremely useful.

Thanks for all the hard work!
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Just on this, given that you can already “unspec” on the calculator (right-click), you could program this in. Not saying it would be easy, but…

If you made it so that each node required previous nodes (like in the game), and then first nodes required a count of affinity (like in the game), and then constellations awarded correct affinities, then respeccing later nodes could work like it does in the game, and you’d have a true calculator.

Sure that won’t take you more than 5-10 minutes to implement…? :wink:

thats actually the plan, this is somewhat done, though its going to be kind of wrong because of how all the transmuters etc. are counted, unless I ignore the buffs entirely(and a 30% chance to do x, y skill may add a property thats always active, but I dont want to figure out which ones by hand and list them, so I can just add everything or ignore that skill). So it will end up as “max hp you can have”, which I prefer tbh.

the background map misses a few lines at the moment, but it should be obvious to you as a human where it starts and ends(ending usually at a skill/red marker, and the skill name for the start is tierxy_a) because the record name is displayed and it goes a->b->c… you have that info either way.
will look into this for the map highlights, though. This was just one of those things I considered obvious so I didn’t bother. when I work on this is also kind of random so you have a half baked feature for months then series of random stuff on another round etc.

this stuff takes 10 mins when I am working on this actively but now I am like “who wrote this”, so I just started fiddling around with again this to finish everything.

I absolutely love the spreadsheet – it has already helped me a great deal. It would be great to have a column to the right that listed how many nodes are in the constellation. That would help with figuring out the most node-efficient way to unlock constellations further up. It would be great to have columns further to the right that specified the content of each node. This last idea would be more time-consuming, but would be cool. Regardless, thank you so much!

PS. In terms of grimCalc, I love that too, but grimcalc makes it very difficult to visualize the different affinity required/ rewarded when planning out the most efficient but still effective path to unlocking higher up constellations. This spreadsheet is a great complement to grimcalc. Grimcalc could likely be expanded to include a viewing option like this, but until such a day this sheet is a godsend : ) I wanted, for example, to figure out the quickest but still effective way to “Tempest” and the spreadsheet helped me quickly figure out how many low constellations awarded both purple and blue (very few) and which purple and blue constellations offered 5 of their respective colors. That way I could check each on grim calc to compare number and contents of the nodes and found a solution I was happy with.

Uncanny…Just last evening I was glancing about to find some sort of spreadsheet with the Deovtions and the granted benefits, being new to the game and all it’s a bit overwhelming trying to look at the in-game page full of the constellations not necessarily placed in any obvious order, at least to me.

Thanks for the work and keep it up!

I noticed this redundancy: aetherfire and imp are both entries as rows in the talbe – imp is the constellation – aetherfire row should be removed

Hi there, thanks for your devotion calculator. However it lacked a few devotions and could use a few more features, so I made a copy and added stuff to it: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z-25Xce5cEdygt51SP_pdNUj3aFbPaf7lYlx0dutgFs/edit?usp=drive_web

You can as a user select which devotions you’re interested in, and see how many points accrue across the 5 areas, and which devotions become available.

OP, I wanted to PM you so you could update your spreadsheet but looks like you can’t PM before writing 3 posts. If you like it, feel free to add it to your post or update your spreadsheet.

Cheers.