Sorry, me again with another question on my long trip home form the holidays.
I see people say “only put xx points into xyz abilty to best avoid diminishing returns”. How do you know when looking at a blank skill tree when diminishing returns kick in, and how do you then decide the line between worth the point and not worth the point?
Edit: Also can you have two conversations at the same time with the same base type? For example phys to lighting AND phys to fire? If so how would that work (with simple numbers if possible)?
For the first part as a new Grim Dawn player but avid ARPG I can answer.
Look into the wiki or the Calculator when the skill start “slowing down” in evolution
Making it very simple a skill that does 100 Damage at lvl 1. 500 Damage at level 5 grow up at 100 damage per level. But once you reach level 9 (which would translate to 900) it is only 700. Starting lvl 5 it only grow 50 damage a level.
In certain situation it also goes down each level. In term of increase you could look at
You can then easily see that the first 10 level are worth it (all giving 15 + points) but when you get to 11 you only get 12 and it is getting worst every level after it. You can still use the edge via + skill but it ain’t worth it as much to actually spend real point into the skill at that level.
Conversion Example
100 Physical Damage with 15% Physical to Fire and 15% Physical to Lightning becomes 70 Physical / 15 Fire / 15 Lightning.
If you have more than 100% total conversion it works by weight. If you had 50% Physical to Fire and Cold and Lightning it would be 33% to each. On the other hand if you had 100% Physical to Fire and 50% Physical to Lightning it would be 66% Fire and 33% Lightning.
I don’t totally understand all this BUT I showed it to the boyfriend who’s good at maths and he drew me pictures and stuff and I totally get it now. Or well the theory. Working out the actual values for my build is another thing but I’m sure I can bribe him with something to get him to do it for me! Thank you ever so much! I’d share my dairy milk chocolates with you if I could.