Does the Revenant of Og'Napesh Pet need Buffs?

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First things first, the items:

Black Grimoire of Og’Napesh

Empowered Black Grimoire of Og’Napesh

Mythical Black Grimoire of Og’Napesh

Now for the Pet:

https://www.grimtools.com/petdb/skill/3556

Now for my thoughts on it:

I am fine with the item itself though I wouldn’t complain if it got a +1 to all necromancer skills on the mythical version.

But my gripe is with the pet itself.

The level 40 version seems to do fine for its level. You’d be on Normal or at the beginning acts on Elite and the extra pet holds its own. The damage it deals is also nice and it being fire + physical instead of Vitality helps too :grin:

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Now for the Empowered version, this is where it starts to face a little bit of competition since the pet bonuses are kind of crap and you have to choose between focusing on making your other pets stronger vs having an extra pet.
However, there is another thing to note here ; Vinelton & Benevald. They sell the recipe for the Empowered version, making it easier to acquire over the other choices.

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But incase of the Mythical Version, here is where it becomes problematic. It is a random drop, so that is not an excuse. Now the stats on the item itself aren’t anything to brag about. Sure the bit of extra pet total speed is nice, but you wouldn’t be taking it for that alone.

No, the main attraction is still the Pet itself. However against endgame content it neither has the damage, survivability nor utility to make it BiS for any pet build outside of my joke builds, but those shouldn’t be used as metric for balance anyways…

One might argue that it is a single item and neither an amulet nor a relic that provides you with a permanent pet and is balanced for that. I might agree if not for the fact that you could literally equip even the non mythical Tome of the Arcane Wastes and still end up with a better build due to the +1 to skills it provides. And it is not even a Pet item and pretty much only provides the +1 to skills.

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Ok, so you might say how about we add +1 to Necro skills to it or something. Maybe, it might work. I don’t know.

But the pet itself is too weak still. Increase its damage values, give it more HP, give it some RR, reduce the CD on its skill so that it becomes more useful, make him ranged, anything. I don’t think it is suddenly going to become OP just because the pet becomes more usable.

Give it the Dirge treatment. Dirge of Arkovia pet used to be rather bad, but currently it is pretty good though things like Mogdrogen’s Ardor and Bysmiel’s Domination didn’t get phased out just because Dirge exists.

Or anyway, that basically summarises my thoughts on the subject. But my perceptions can always be wrong and so I am curious to yours. If you have thoughts and opinions of your own, comment below.
If you rather just vote for Buffs (or that it doesn’t need any), there is a handy poll just below.

Also if you prefer to use it over other items in your endgame builds, I would very much welcome a Grimtools link and perhaps a short note on why you consider it BiS for your build.

  • Yes, Both the Item and Pet needs Buffs
  • The Item is fine, but the Pet needs Buffs
  • The Pet is fine, but the Item needs Buffs
  • No, neither the Item nor the Pet needs any Buffs

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Wow, I am the one that thinks this book is okay. The pet, however, is worse than the level 75, though, so yeah, buff it. I also made a post about it few months ago. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not talking about raw numbers. They’re about 10 - 20% higher, but if we talk about damage-wise (because that’s the only thing we can talk about if it comes to Napesh), the pet loses about 50+% damage when gearing up at level 94 and picking the upgraded book. For reference on a Bird-jurer, Raven: ~70k DPS, Hellhound/Briarthorn (one pointed) 30k DPS, Napesh… 14k DPS if I remember correctly.

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Some resist on the book would not hurt as well as buffing the pet.

I am using it with Physical Beastcaller (Tree + Ishtak + Azrakaa), so far at Shard 45 only so it’s not a benchmark by any means, but making it more competitive would be welcome indeed.

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+1 for buff to pet (idk about offhand itself)
Pets from items are generally weak (except chillmane) but Revenant from Og’Nagesh tome are one of the weakest.

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+1 to buff summoned revenant’s fire damage.

+1 to giving pets fire conversion on the item’s pet boosts.

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IMO both need a buff:
Item: Without skill boost(s) such as +1 to necromancer or multiple skills, even if the pet is buffed, will it be practical to consider it over other items considering the trade off?

Pet: It has had both survivability and damage issues since GD pre-xpac (its not even a good end game item in those days), with the scaling up of damage at the vanilla portions of the game, this makes it even worse for this item.

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For an Epic it already offers alot. May be a legendary variant then.

Bonuses are fine, just the pet sucks.

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I wonder how it feels now after the difficulty revamp. I haven’t touched it in some time, but can’t imagine it being even decent now :frowning:

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The pet has nearly 100k HP after buffs it’d be fine to live. Just it does basically nothing in terms of damage.

At least it’d live until my skeletons and blightfiend all gets vaporized first.

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It has less HP than untransmuted Blightfiends though. And Lost Souls Skeletons are much tougher due to Physical Res they get

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i havent used it for a while so memory might be failing me. In that case it could be buffed to be another tank i suppose. Reduce cooldown on his shielding buff, or add a reflect/retaliation skill to it.