Effect of Difficulty on Item Quality

Hey! I want to get a green item with certain stats from Nemesis, but she’s too strong for me right now in Ultimate. Can I get this item with better stats by killing Nemesis on Normal difficulty?

not in campaign world
drops will depend on monster level, monster wont scale very high on Normal, think max level is around lvl 75 in forgotten gods area, base game act 1-4 scale much lower

The best way to get Nemesis items is Crucible (except for Anasteria’s and Kaisan’s ones). The difficulty you should farm depends on which mods you want. If you want a double rare mods, you have to farm Gladiator difficulty 170 wave. If you want a magic+rare mods - challenger 170 or gladiator 150-170. For double magic mods - probably aspirant 170, or challenger 150-170…

The problem with farming Nemesises in campain is that level of enemies is limited. Even on Elite you will get subpar lvl70-80 items with much weaker stats and mods. So, killing them in normal/elite is a good way to get nice levelling items, but a bad one to get endgame ones.

Thanks for the answer! Could you tell me about the items from the campaign bosses. I need a green amulet from Ilgorr, it’s a boss from the undead skeletal dungeon. He is not a Nemesis, but can I get the item I need in the Crucible with the right stats?

Yes you can get it from sr and cruci. However due to jogh amount of mi’s ingame, the chance is low to get one

no you can not

you can’t get dungeon uniques from SR or Crucible, they have to be farmed direct
only Nemesis item that doesn’t drop in sr/cruci is Kaisan, the others do drop, incl Reaper legs
all legendary boss MIs doesn’t drop, Soulrend, Heart of the Sand, Okaloth etc
and unique sets doesn’t drop in Cruci or SR either, Krieg Set, Dark One, Vanquiser, etc Alkamos rings etc
and regular green dungeon boss MIs, Ilgor, Gulgazor etc doesn’t drop either

My apologies you’re right, indeed dungeon mi’s dont

Gnome is right yea u could have been right too in some regard, like 4 years ago, or somewhere in older times u could actually get some of those items… was it a bug that was fixed or what, I don’t exactly know… I had 2 times outcasts helmet from crucible and sr.

yep, several items was removed from cruci/sr over time
until eventually all the “uniques” and even kaisan got removed
once upon a time could even get alkamos rings and outcast helm in Cruci iirc

Amulet? Maybe you meant medal instead? Yes, it drops from a big skeleton thing boss in SoT dungeon.

And yes, it seems that now you cant get dungeon-exclusive items in Crucible. You have to grind dungeons in the old way, even if they’re a cakewalk for your character and are boring as hell therefore.
For some wierd reasons you cant even get Kaisan’s and Anasteria’s items, even though they arent dungeon bosses…

Anasteria is a dungeon boss tho :grin:

I believe you dont need to spend a Skeleton Key every time you go kill her, right?

what does that matter?
she’s very clearly in a literal dungeon, being a roguelike/skeleton key dungeon boss has no bearing for her there :grin:

Because real dungeons in GD require Skeleton Key. They dont let you leave or use rift whenever you want and give no second chances (if you die, you have to restart it from the beginning).

those are skeleton key dungeons/roguelike dungeons
the other stuff is still dungeons, they just don’t have the unique/separate roguelike speciality mention (notice how we always refer to them specifically as either roguelike dungeons or skeleton key dungeon, and never just plain dungeon, because they are special), and i find it extra hilarious you don’t think so, when she’s one of the few that’s in a literal dungeon on top :smile: