Ritualists are weird, but then again the only time i’ve been getting to theorycraft recently is when I’m very tired and up way later than I should be. Which probably means I’m making really weird decisions like thinking about the Deathstalker relic even though it’s player scaled but oh well.
Also the pet threads are certainly getting a bit all over the place now.
I was talking about the number of pet threads that I have rather than the general number of pet threads/builds.
And a number of them are now pretty much obsolete. Not in the sense that they can’t be used at all, but in the sense that they are alot weaker now. And testing and tweaking them all in any meaningful way would probably take too much time. Hence the decision to let most of them go.
Btw, we still have this thread for general pet theorycrafting. Or one of you could start a mini compendium of sorts for pets 
But regardless of all that, I must say that I am kind of happy that more people are starting to show interest in pets. I am looking forward to crazy builds by all of you 
Very much this.
So I assume we can safely say beastcallers is best in slot as far as pet sets go for conjurers, but what about cabalist?
Ghol for ritualists?
Cabalists should do fine with Bysmiel’s Trinkets and Skeleton/BlightFiend support.
But I do wonder if Chaos Reap Spirit might be viable…
And yeah, probably Ghol’s for Ritualists
I don’t think that you can assume that without trying Bysmiel’s Trinkets.
Are you hinting at something?
I don’t know what he is hinting at. But…
The Lazy Dodo: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/nZo9kPk2
The Frozen Dodo: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYYmAAN
Those Familiars look tasty
Nothing specific, just that in the previous patches, 2 x Familiar without Beastcaller’s was stronger than Beastcaller’s without 2 x Familiar. I would wager that once we’ve all had time to play around and optimize, Bysmiel’s Trinkets will be a little better offensively and Beastcaller’s will be a little better defensively.
Mythical Circle of the Great Serpent also has 100% reduced mind control duration for pets, by the way.
Since Bysmiel Trinkets grant extra healing, i think Tree of Life is not even compulsory and offensive setup is the way to go.
Beastcaller helm is better for conjurers though.
And Tree still has a shorter CD and provides mana regen. Besides, more heals are good
But obviously Moggy setup should provide more dmg.
Ok… I am seriously considering swapping the gloves to Mythical Touch of the Everliving Grove for my double Briarthorn builds for the pet DA.
Gah, not knowing the flat PET OA/DA values is frustrating :furious:
EDIT: Yup, swapping the gloves. The Pet DA is otherwise too low for comfort 
New Chaos Puppy ?: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAYGkwV
Given the nerf to the rings, are we looking at a new off-hand for chaos pets?
I don’t know what I am doing anymore…
IDon’tKnowAnymoreFluffy: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/8NKylepV
I feel like switching the pant component to scaled hide for armour absorb would be better in this since the res are already capped and it means you use the ognapesh armour boost a bit better.
You are right. Changing it