Thank you for the update. If it will be released in 2026, or 2027, or 2028, it does not matter. Those who know it, know it, this game holds great value for the Isometric ARPG genre, and your team has already fulfilled the great promise of an excellent experience with near too close to infinite replayability. You keep working on top of an old engine, that limits the mechanics, graphism, possibility for live cinematics, environmental design, and so on and on. And still you dont let the old engine prevent yourselves from building a world and an experience that, for me, POE2 (my fav game is POE1) / Last Epoch / Diablo 4 just aren’t getting it right. Take your time with it. We all believe in you, continue the great work people at Crate.
Take as long as you need. It’s great that you are not going to be bounced into a rushed, half-arsed release.
Also, I think it was the right decision to announce it when you did, because it wasn’t just about FoA but about the whole of Grim Dawn development coming back to life.
Take all the time your team needs to finish the new Expantion.
you have made Grim Dawn + the current expantions so amazing.
I can wait. (but i do hope summer 2026 XD)
Thanks for the detailed update!
Really excited for FoA, and I’m totally fine waiting as long as it takes. Keep up the awesome work!
You take the Time you can to make the Game you want, everything you have shown so far looks amazing and i will wait until its time, so thank you for the cool and very extensive Update.
OT: can you/do you want to give any news regarding the possibility of WASD implementation?
why does it look like that tree in top right corner is about to spring to life and ambush me if i touch that stone circle ?
I do want it now, but I am perfectly fine waiting for a good product.
There’s too many rushed releases these days, so take the time you need to give us even MOAR!
first time i logged into the forums in years, only to show my appreciation for this post
it’s much better to take a while and release a top tier expansion that will make everyone happy and bring a lot of new people to the game than to rush out a minimum viable product that will disappoint everyone and leave a bad taste on everyone’s mouth
some brats might complain about having to wait a little bit longer to play a videogame, but i bet they’d complain a lot more if the expansion released with “only 200h of content” or if the new features weren’t as polished as they wanted (which is what happened with D4, POE2 and more than half the leagues in POE1)
I care so much more about how good it is than how fast it is, there are tons of games to play in the meantime, do your best!
This. It’s almost standard practice for the industry to release half-finished rubbish. We are not used to developers taking the time to get things right.
Take all the time you need. We’ll be there.
Thank you for every bit of your work.
Hello folks,
long time reader, just made this account to say something regarding that topic.
Thanks for the update folks! I am grateful to be part of this community since nearly the very beginning and I really appreciate the work of Crate! Just take the time to finish the game and do not release it unfinished. The delay is no problem! Thanks for the great work and all the quality updates this game has received. Grim Dawn is a milestone of gaming and my favorite game.
best regards!
Nope, as said further down the thread FoA, Farthest Frontier, the RTS game which will be set on Cairn in a pre-GD era and a horror survival game. Plus Crate are also working on a new generation of their game engine which will first be used for the RTS and the maybe after that GD2.
The RTS is partly the reason why we’re getting a third expansion for the game as the Kurn tribes will feature in it and Crate decided it would be a good idea to give us some background/history about them.
I’m just really happy Grim Dawn is still being developed. My favorite action RPG around still.
I appreciate the update. Just to preface this, I intend on buying the expansion regardless of when it comes out as long as I’m not dead. But I have some thoughts and they’re not really positive based on how I’ve seen you post on the Steam forums. In absolute, complete fairness to you, the average Steam forum poster is uh.
Still, though:
From a pure communications standpoint, you did announce the expansion too early. You can argue it - and I have seen you argue it on the Steam forums as unconvincingly as you’re arguing it here - but your argument is just wrong and not fully in good faith. You are here, as you were there, trying to shift the blame of poor communication to the people you’re communicating to rather than accepting some collective responsibility for making a generally poor decision.
My assumption as to why this was actually done - and I am aware there is a L O R E reason, but I’m also assuming that was retroactively decided - was because none of your other products are anywhere close to a release and you needed something you thought would have a reasonably rapid development schedule to a) remind people you’re still actively working on stuff and are salient as a studio, b) it acts as advertising for the RTS, and c) you need money. There’ve been no formal announcements for FF in over a year, and the last playtest update made it clear you’re not close to a full release there either. I’m not going to speculate WHY this is happening because developing anything is complicated and time consuming and I am certainly acknowledging that, but I also have to acknowledge that it has happened and this is the timeline we’re in.
It sounds like what actually happened is that you did, in fact, expect rapid release of the expansion, but scope creep crept in. You tacitly confirm pretty much all of this in this post, but you still do it with relative hostility and defensiveness. ‘No, really guys, it’s going to be super duper good, just give us time.’ doesn’t mix well with ‘Stop giving us shit for constantly delaying the thing we said we’d release almost a year ago.’
What you probably should’ve done was just be honest from the outset about the expansion’s development cycle. A plain ‘hey we’re blueprinting a new expansion for Grim Dawn while we’re finalizing our other major thing, please look forward to it’ without expectations or release dates would’ve probably gone over way better. You still would’ve caught some hostility from people through the updates about the expansion’s content that followed, but at least it would’ve came off more as a development diary than as a means of advertisement for a product with an imminent release date. The way it was announced had all of the language of something that was largely feature finished and that was a reasonable expectation for an expansion to a 10 year old game.
I like Grim Dawn a lot. I will continue to like Grim Dawn. I will almost certainly buy Fangs of Asterkarn and I will continue to support Crate through Grim Dawn even though I frankly am not interested in your other projects. But man, just take the L =(
I literally forgot how to play the game while waiting for the expansion lol. It was just a break since I knew a lot will change including the existing masteries and items so I could do a fresh start when it arrive. Now It’s been too long and I’m scarred to re-start playing
Take all the time you need, folks.
The only thing I am expecting is a high quality expansion like the last ones have been. If it takes longer to archive that then so be it.
The two things I would be hoping for is a version of the shattered realm that is not time based for a more relaxed end game experience and better mod support to allow the use of multiple mods without having to figure out how to merge mods.
Wile im sure this is not the case, im getting scam citizen flashbacks from this…more is always good, but someone at some point needs to step on the breaks
Totally wrong on most of this. There have been updates and info about FF the most recent being this.
FF is very close to full release with Crate specifying that it will come in October this year; public playtesting starting next month.
FF is doing very well sales-wise.