How would you even go about building the spec?
What classes would you use? Which devotion pathing?
Do you spend points into celestial presence for vit RR if its a double damage type?
Do you pick demo/inqui for much needed chaos RR? Or go for an occultist because the OK has Z.E.R.O %chaos damage.
(This is essentially why the AAR MH does well - because you get %chaos from fabric of reality)
hmmm, I tried to explain, what do not understand exactly?
Lemme try again:
Many endgame skills like aegis have their flat damage split 50/50, in this case fire/phyiscal. Fire has more damage in total as it also has the burn on top. Usually you streamline your damage into either 100% fire or 100% phyiscal, basically doubling your damage. This is equal to a 100% total damage mod without any conversion, right? So Voidsoul can make up for no conversion with a 100% total damage mod. Now the other problem would be that chaos has no DoT. For this the solution is to give it more flat instead (%WD, which is chaos only as the shield is flat chaos). Then we also need more total damage mod to make up for the CD, as I said before the CD is ~20% damage loss to the total damage mod would need to be at least 140% to make up for both crappy conversion and +CD. Voidsouls Aegis needs to at least deal 240% of a fully converted aegis with no other mods to have the same damage. Whether or not it needs additional damage mods due to e.g. chaos RR being shit, etc. is up for discussion, which is why I said that the values I proposed have to be the absolute minimum of %total damage mod.
Two seperate builds: one for chaos, one for vitality
For Vitality: Sentinel/Archon, standard vitality devotions (rattosh, dying god)
For Chaos: Paladin/Shieldbreaker for RR or Sentinel for %chaos, standard chaos devotions (witchfire, dying god, hourglass)
Yes things like this have to be taken into account aswell.
Chaos variant would obviously be much weaker, which can be fixed with e.g. a much bigger %WD mod to aegis (giving the base skill way more flat chaos dmg). Also if FoI and DB Boni were removed, we would have the space to e.g. get RR to Pox/CoF or more RR to WoP.
Here’s where my confusion lies…
Who in their right mind would then play voidsoul aegis as a chaos build?
Hell no. I’m going for a sentinel for incredible damage values, double RR, sick devotion pathing, and PoT3 for more disc throws.
At the end of the day, wouldn’t the changes suggested push it further towards a single damage type?
EDIT: It’d be akin to how lightning damage is the roast beef in the meal which is “allagast set,” and aether damage the weak ass side salad.
No one is going to play allagast TSS as an aether skill
Yes, but you can counteract that by increasing the %WD mod.
After increasing %WD mod chaos variant could be just as strong as vitality.
The Aegis part of the set is well thought out imo, it already has all the parameters that it needs to tweak the spell around. Just the values are trash atm.
Allagast on the other hand was not that well planned imo… If they used lighting to aether and cold to lightning conversion with some adjusted values however it could’ve been a great set for both lightning and aether alike.
Not with conversion on lunal’valgoth belt + m. pestilence of dreeg + valguur’s glove it won’t.
That’s 100% chaos/vit conversion. You’ll just be unable to benefit from doom bolt.
Indeed. Add flat physical then? Gets converted to chaos and can’t be converted further? Maybe change voidsoul’s shield base to physical?
Honestly, I really don’t know. If I knew, I’d have given you my suggestion instead of being such a #hater and disagreeing with you at every single turn. 
(Which, again, I’m only doing because I don’t see how it’s possible to salvage voidsoul save for a complete rework of the set.)
That’s fine, at least you make me try to think of different solutions this way 
The problem with wanting to push for a chaos/vit double damage type has nothing to do with the set, but more so with how vastly different the 2 damage types are.
It’s very different from elemental damage because %elemental benefits all 3. Ditto for RR.
I’m not trying to make it a dual damage type set, but a set that can be used as a single damage set for both chaos and vitality 
Sorry. Yes, that’s what I meant.
Take something like cyclone for example. It excels both as a lightning damage set and as a fire damage set precisely because of the mechanics of elemental damage.
True, good example. I still think it should be doable even with non elemental damage types, just need to balance them correctly (not like allagast).
Only other set i can think of which is capable of doing that is justice set - but you need to forgo skill modifiers on it.
Wrong. Aegis’ strength is in its weapon damage. And vitality here is not zero dmg, it does contribute.
Anyways, Voidsoul is a chaos FoI set. Doing anything else with it is a fool’s errand. Aegis can be a filler. DB is a waste of points/time/energy without solid cdr.
Voidsoul should be good in 1.1.5.0 after the FoI and WoP buffs. It’s already 7-ish.
That’s incredible. My FoI spec was hitting like 8ish or so IIRC.
When did you do this run? Was it in 1.1.4.2?
Because I personally found the solael’s devourer spec very inconsistent
Then why does the 70% total dmg mod feel so lackluster?
I feel like aegis shines with crits + spammability moreso than %WD
Here [1.1.4.1] Devoid Of Soul, In Need Of Buff - Voidsoul FoI/Aegis Paladin (c+) (sr+).
Because the idea of using Aegis as main when it’s not for stacking DoTs is lackluster. And chaos has no DoTs.
Aegis is one of the most nerfed skills in history. In other words, it’s crap. Voidsoul set makes it even crappier with that +1s.
I feel like we are calling the same thing different names here. I.e. seems to me that we agree that voidsoul’s biggest issue isn’t its %WD, but rather its lack of cooldown
Now all sets have to be 3-mastery sets so naturally one class must be weaker or the other 2 will be op. For Voidsoul’s it’s sentinel. The way I see it, Voidsoul is meant as FoI with a nuke side. Sentinel is meme-tier. Must be. Doesn’t have a main.
I’m not so crazy about cdr on either Aegis or DB because it gimps FoI channeling. My only issue with Voidsoul is that the proc on shield should be 100% on block not 30% because there’s no block recovery. And ofc your everyday FoI rant. EDIT: remembered more - some global cdr for DG and Abomination uptime. And ~6% more cast speed.
Hmm…that makes sense. But wouldn’t a voidsoul sentinel on your build perform significantly better?
Tangentially, I wished soleal’s devourer had innate %skill cost reduction. It’s so difficult to manage energy.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/vNQOAMnV
This is my current set up. All items crafted for energy regen. It’s still inadequate.
You are right. Everything I wrote before would’ve been perfectly applicable to a skill with no weapon damage, my bad. Idk how I somehow forgot to think about weapon damage on Aegis… maybe this happens when you outsource your brain to twitch chat… 
This is how you could buff chaos while not buffing vitality Aegis then.
How does it compare to Black Flame set? Any why do you think we should have two chaos FoI sets?
Agree Sentinel is the worst class for this set and it kinda makes no sense for the set to even have any Doom Bolt theme imo.
Have you tried a purifier version of that for more chaos RR?