You were right to question me for I am revealed to be a sad liar.
I re-ran the bosses to record accurate timings and ended up with the following, using a chaos skeleton build with dying god constellation (Cabalist, Level 100 (GD 1.3.1.0) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator):
Avatar of Mogdrogen: ~2:30 (including dropping to sub 2k hp because I’m bad)
Ravager: ~45s
Regular nerftal: ~2:10 (not including first form)
Uber Nerftal: Beat me like a wet carpet =[
I mean, there is a reason I am crying for skeleton to be buffed.
And I had to post actual videos to show how often they die even against the weakest superboss: Ravager.
Btw: Do you not have ascended affixes? Since, I know skeletons are glass now but having 45 sec kill with ascended affixes is well… bad.
Even a weak build like aether skeleton here do not require more than 30 sec Please Buff Skeleton CDR in Undead Legion and Maybe Reduce the CDR on Awakened Covenant Set - #24 by minh_pham
If I switch to a mogdrogens type build then I can get avatar down to ~1:35 and nerftal to ~2:00 but I still can’t kill ubernerf.
Every item I’m wearing is ascended although one or two of them are useless, I don’t know how to make grimtools export that?
Use this Release GDBuildLoader v1.4 · NavingLord/GrimBuildLoader · GitHub to generate any save file from Grim Tool
https://youtu.be/EQjwoSkI7tY Here’s my ravager kill if you can see some obvious failure.
Btw, I think you could change your ascended affixes into rr one. Chaos cabalist desperately needs rr.
The result is expected given that cabalist has no tree of life and mogdrogen regen ascended affixes
Oh, GT does list the affixes. Yeah, I’m trying for either the -RR or the +Skeleton dps ones but I haven’t rerolled them enough yet.
No need to reroll now. Just fix your ascended affixes on grim tool, use navlord’s tool and you will have an immediate save file
What’s stronger, the skeleton one or the -RR one?
rr in non-armor slot and skeleton or blood of dreeg in armor slots
Btw, you are welcome now if you want to join “those who want skeletons to be buffed”. We can only look at beastcaller and feel bad for ourselves now
Are you on the GD (english?) discord?
I’m in both this forum and discord. My discord is mmiinnhh
“Weak”
There is a huge chasm between “not the best” and “weak.” Let’s not with this “if it doesn’t output 5M DPS in Grimtools, it’s trash.” We will propose buffs as needed.
Is this the dmg to superbosses or low resistance army? I remember that dmg vs superbosses is only around half or 3M. But idk, it’s theoretical dmg. The vitality ritualist build has over 4M dmg to superbosses in average and takes around 18-20 sec to actually kill ravager so the number is just for reference. And compared to other skeletons then yeah sry, it’s not strong but not very weak.
I just took your Aether Skeletons build and ran it through the PetCalc tool’s default settings. And yes, the number is just for reference, but outside of things like full Beastcaller’s or Ghol’s many pet builds I’ve made Grimtools for are lucky to scrape half that number.
You can whine “weak!” all you want, but Zantai has more pressing priorities than people who get triggered over the fact that their builds take more than 40 seconds to kill a superboss. Sorry, not sorry.
If that’s the case then it’s best to see what could be done to make those weaker builds (i.e., spiritmonger, lost soul) better, or how pets in cabalist side could be tankier vs tougher enemies since they lack the mogdrogen ascended affixes.
Agreed. We can provide all the data and video evidence we want, but ultimately it’s the dev team’s decision, not ours. I very much appreciate the data and willingness to test things, but ultimately this is a balancing act on top of all the other balancing acts Crate is already doing with every build post-FoA.
Btw, turn out aether skeletons is actually not weak, it’s one of the stronger one. I adjusted some gear and its ravager kill time is now 21-24 sec. I don’t even use elixir/tincture/oil… or have offensive devos like dying god or mogdrogen
Grim Tool: Ritualist, Level 100 (GD 1.3.1.0) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator
Videos:
Hopefully Crate will buff spiritmonger gravel so that it can have this level of dmg and tankiness.