Forthcoming Forgotten Gods expac - what we know so far Part I

medea_fleecestealer · June 9, 2018, 12:45pm

Surprisingly little said about the expansion in the stream yesterday. This was an artwork stream with Allminoxy showing us some of the new monsters he’s working on for the expansion. Here’s the concept art for one.

And a bit further along.

And then we got to see another of the new monsters.

FG related questions/answers:

Flavourius :is that chthonic? or for a new faction
Zantai_GD :it’s not chthonic
Allminoxy: it’s eldritch

AdiosOcelote :Make a skill/item that summons this monster permanently. I want to have one of those in my side and call it Bob.
Zantai_GD :haha you guys can’t request every new mob we make as a summon

mauric1us :So Zantai, what are the remaining 2 constellations in FG ?
Zantai_GD :you’ll see soon enough

Plasmastrike67 :Have you ever considered Ultimate Veteran mode? Or will the new game mode somewhat satisfy that in a way?
Zantai_GD :definitely not adding any higher difficulties
Zantai_GD :new game mode will probably appeal to those wanting harder content

Greek_Feta_Cheese :@Zantai_GD will we be able to step into the aetherial realm or cththonian realm or the realm of the witch gods in a future expansion ?
Zantai_GD :you’ve already been in the chthonian realm
Zantai_GD :the aetherial realm is not a physical plane of existence
Zantai_GD :so you’d have trouble existing there

StrUktO :could your mind exist there?
Zantai_GD :your spirit could
Zantai_GD :but then you’re dead
Zantai_GD :so…

Chthon · June 9, 2018, 12:53pm

I mean I like the monster designs introduced in Ashes of Malmouth but what is up with Forgotten Gods. Every monster they make I want to have it as a permanent summon. It’s just so damn good.

Btw I really hope we fight a boss variant of the winged creature whose wings remain “unfinished” (basically it looks like this http://prntscr.com/jszwad)

I really hope we can get some basic differences b/w Aether and Eldritch already. That stuff hasn’t made sense to me since Day 1. I don’t even care about the meta plot at this point

Apollo · June 9, 2018, 1:08pm

Even more monsters, yay Can’t wait to see them in all their glory!

Troll_from_behind · June 9, 2018, 3:34pm

Based on the part about spirit inhabiting Aetherial’s realm place sounds more and more like Warp in WH40k.
Also WANT those pincers for pierce bm!

DeMasked · June 9, 2018, 4:18pm

Yea Zantai is going to have to work extra hard when it comes to making those shoulder/helmet/weapons from these monsters.

medea_fleecestealer · June 13, 2018, 1:21am

A post from Zantai yesterday in another thread explaining a bit more how the movement runes were made.

Why did you buy the old TQ engine?

Well…for starters I’d hardly call it the “Titan Quest engine” at this point given that we’ve rewritten significant portions of it and implemented all sorts of upgrades and new features while making Grim Dawn. The pathing system isn’t even the same as TQ used. For all intents and purposes, this is the Grim Dawn engine.

And no, hacky solutions are what designers do; until their hacks no longer work, then a programmer gets involved to make the engine do what the designers need (or the designer hacks make a programmer cry, then the hacks get replaced).

The final solution is far from “hacky”. I was not the one who wrote the code, so I can’t go into explicit details, but I imagine vector calculations were involved to determine a valid pathing solution and whether the targeted destination is within a valid pathable range so as to avoid pathing over inaccessible areas or areas too far away to reach normally.

The core of it was getting teleport to work and then working backwards from there to create the other variants and behaviors. Adding a whirlwind-type skill was a different beast entirely since it involved a channeled attack+move command, which is unlike any other skill presently in the game. The channeled behavior from skills such as Aether Ray served as a starting point.

zitro · June 13, 2018, 1:33am

I hope there will be scorpion like monsters since part of the expansion take place in the desert, right?
Btw awesome work!!!

el_critico · June 13, 2018, 1:34am

what I learned in FG so far is that its about shame:furious:

medea_fleecestealer · June 13, 2018, 2:05am

The only person to be furious with is yourself.

el_critico · June 13, 2018, 3:20am

on a brighter side of things wounds will heal eventually. The expansion will no doubt sell well and I will play it anyway regardless of what mastey and content they decide to throw in.

mastery aside it’s the new game mode that is killing me also. Props also to Almino for the monster design:cool:

that Zantai though:furious:

medea_fleecestealer · June 13, 2018, 3:30am

Well, he was going to tell you sooner or later and again it’s your own fault for going on about it so much. If you’d kept quiet about it, you might still be having happy dreams of a Paladin.

Hopefully we might hear something more about the new game mode soon. Big Z said back in April he thought he might be ready to show it off in a month or two - and it’s two. (hint ;))

el_critico · June 13, 2018, 3:40am

at least finally its a confirmation we are getting one;)

I am a good person you know and I and the holy paladin community will forgive Zantai as long as he releases 2 masteries in lieu of it:p

el_critico · June 13, 2018, 3:46am

Zantai said there will be, begin your hype;)

medea_fleecestealer · June 13, 2018, 3:51am

All he confirmed is there won’t be a Paladin mastery, never said anything else about any other type of mastery. We still await confirmation.

And yes you can see in the screenshots from Allminoxy’s stream that one of the monsters is a scorpion type.

Superfluff · June 13, 2018, 3:54am

Also, not being named Paladin does not mean it won’t have shield spells. Call it what you want, easily RP paladin with that if it turns out to be true

Troll_from_behind · June 13, 2018, 5:40am

So I take it ASCII rogue-like ain’t going to be the “shattering” game mode.

Superfluff · June 13, 2018, 5:41am

Could be the pathway to it

Garfunkel · June 13, 2018, 7:07am

Please, what is he talking about guys?

medea_fleecestealer · June 13, 2018, 7:14am

This I assume since the game gave it’s name to them.

Ptirodaktill · June 13, 2018, 7:34am

Yay, would be my favorite mode the.