Forthcoming Forgotten Gods expac - what we know so far Part II

GM #155 revealed a new QoL feature - an updated and much more flexible loot filter.

The stream of the 1st February started and ended with more music from Skewsound.

EXTREMEGAMER29 : What level does the shattering start at?
Whatever level your character is.

The furthest level the playtesters got I think is like 104, but it took him hours. It was brutal and it’s going to be even harder in the next build once we take care of the cheese tactics he used. It involves enemies healing when you die. In the current version of the game it’s only the last enemy in the game that hits you actually regains health, but we’ve updated that so it’s like all x number of enemies in the last 6 seconds that hit you will heal which means you’ll no longer be able to cheese boss levels in the Shattered Realm.

mcrobertx22 : how does loot work here
It’s very similar to the Crucible in that you don’t get any loot drops while you’re clearing stuff. And then when you get to the end of a boss shard or the boss level in the shard you can then choose whether you want to keep going or if you want to grab your loot. And the loot you get will be based on how far you got.

You can re-enter the Shattered Realm where you stopped. You will, however, have a penalty to the clock when you die.

If you make the shard time you get more chests.

ontical : are there any MI’s that are shattered realm only?
No,there are no Monster Infrequents that are Shattered Realm only. There is, however, an item set that is exclusive to the Shattered Realm. So if you’re really good at playing this game on Ultimate difficulty and you want to get a fancy set you too can look like a badass statue from the Korvan lands.

kyleblake48 : How much HP do you get per point of of cunning and spirit? we know physique gives 2.5 HP per point.
The main goal though, just to give casters who have to go heavy spirit to fulfil their gear requirements will not be so behind in health. And having a more even distribution of attributes on characters in general is secondary to that goal. I tested a variety of characters on Ultimate difficulty with this change and they’ve gained as much as 18% health which is substantial when you consider those characters were doing okay before this health buff.

emkyooess : How about Crucible changes with FG? New mobs? Extending beyond 170? (Pausing before the monsters come with waves so we can read the mutators before the fight?)
So we are adding the Forgotten Gods mobs, we are not adding more waves. I felt 170 was a pretty good stopping point as it is, adding to that really would not do the Crucible mode much good I think. And if you want even harder content than the Crucible offers then the Shattered Realm is honestly going to be your place to go. And like shard 100 plus even regular fodder mobs can wreck you. The addition of the Forgotten Gods mobs to the Crucible is actually coming with the release of the expansion, you guys won’t have to wait for a patch this time around.

apouche_ : how’s the play testing going?
I’d say it’s going very well. Pretty minimal on bug issues, we haven’t had any major like really terrifying bugs pop up.

So how long do we have that Orelon bloodlust thing for?
It’s up for 3,000 seconds or 5 minutes. If you die, however, you will lose it. And you can’t reactivate shrines twice.

How often do shrines show up?
They don’t show up very often on the lower shards so we actually got really lucky that it spawned. The higher you go the more likely they are to show up and actually sometimes you might even get up to 3 on the same level.

EvilBaka : How many different shrine buffs are there?
There are 5 different shrines.

anathema2741 : Do the shrines all cost a Blood of Chthon? or do they have different costs
They have different costs. Rare crafting materials that you’ll need and it does take them from your stash, you don’t have to have them on you.

emkyooess : What’s in the line for achievements? A new one for levelling 1-100 only playing Ultimate?
We’re not going to do an achievement like that. That would be pretty awesome for someone to do.

rap8ti : Does GD use Unity engine ?
No, GD uses a proprietary engine that we built on top of the TQ engine.

Compared to Ashes of Malmouth it is almost as big in terms of the amount of areas you’ll be hunting monsters down in and on top of that we have the Shattered Realm. It is massive. There’s a reason why it took as long as it did to develop.

And the Shattered Realm is how many levels now?
I think it’s up to 52 or maybe even 56, but I’m actually having Hyboreal work on a few more this month. That number is going to be higher by release.

akalabeth8820 : any change in the craft system in the future? like put a roll in an item and we can decide witch one? using crafting materials or killing an specific boss
What you’re talking about is a complete redesign of the system and not exactly something we’re aiming for because you’re talking about predictive crafting where you get exactly the result you want and the crafting system is meant to be a bit of a gambling system for the game.

I will definitely approach crafting differently if we do Grim Dawn 2 for sure. I think it will still serve to be a bit of a gambling system, but maybe make it easier to craft some of those multi-layered recipes like relics.

ontical : do MI drop in the shattered realm the same way they do at the end of crucible?
You can get Monster Infrequents in the Shattered Realm in the same way, they’re in the treasure room, they’re random, you can’t really predict what you’re going to get.

EXTREMEGAMER29 : @CrateEntertainment Will there be really rare legendaries in FG like the worldeater?
Like really really rare ones, probably not. I did mention the Shattered Realm set which is exclusive to the Shattered Realm and you’ll only get it on Ultimate difficulty and pretty high up in the shards. I think the last piece is on shard 60 or something. You really gotta earn that.

ChthonicSonic : @CrateEntertainment @Zantai_GD There seems to be room for more and bigger mutators to the left of the Shard/Chunk bar. What’s the worst we can expect?
You can expect up to seven mutators in the Shattered Realm.

EXTREMEGAMER29 : @CrateEntertainment How did you come up with the idea for FG?
Part of it actually was in my proposal for Ashes of Malmouth, but then we realised how insanely big of an expansion that would be so we kinda cut out that bit of story that we had in mind from Ashes and said if we do another expansion that would be a good direction to go because it is a story that centres around a lot of the unanswered questions we had. Like a lot of the stuff you might have been wondering about the Witch Gods, those mysterious shrines that have been all over the world and who is it that the Kymon’s Chosen are working with. And of course where did Uroboruuk go? All of these thing are kind of coalescing in this one culmination of events in this place. And I think for lore junkies of Grim Dawn in particular you’re going to have a hell of a time with this expansion. It’s definitely tying up a lot of loose ends. I think it’s going to create new questions, but hopefully it’s going to tie up some ends for you.

ArdjayTw :is it possible to make it so that curses like blood pox and ill omen be put on left mouse button plz @CrateEntertainment ?
That is not possible with this engine because the left click must be available for moving around and those skills target enemies.

mordecai_mike : Can we at least get pets to proc on death procs.
No, we cannot get pets to proc on death procs.

anathema2741 : eldritch essence?
Eldritch Essence, yes it’s a new crafting material.

Caerbae : is eldritch essence what we need to transmute set items or wot?
It is one of the materials for that, yes.

You have a trailer to finish, I have a final boss to balance.
How’s it coming by the way?
Oh, it’s going to be an awesome fight. We kind of pushed the envelope a little bit with Theodin and I feel like we’re pushing the limits of this engine again with the final boss here. Allminoxy’s helping me out with the special effects, once that’s all done it’s going to be badass. And most of the v/o is in which was recorded last week. It’s going to be awesome.

Quite a lot of the new monsters in FG decided to appear in the stream so if you want to see what you’re going to be up against I suggest you have a look.

GM #156 gave us an item comparison between the base game, AoM and FG plus a look at the map area for the new expansion.