I look at a lot of builds and I see this item pop up with various modifiers. Is it a MI? If not, it is something that you craft? Even so, why is this sought after? Kinda curious about the origin and farming. If this is a dupe thread, I apologize.
It´s a craft. For build which don´t use specific legendary boots, well rolled stoneplete greaves of kings are awesome, the proc is very powerful, add some juicy defensive stats, yum.
Just pretty much impossible to craft.
So true. I gave up farming well rolled MI’s because of this. If I can’t even craft good rolls with the fortune I had amassed, hell am I gonna farm one?
In my experience, it´s not hard to craft decent ones (decent, not awesome), but RNG is obviously a factor here.
The game of “crafting awesome MI boots” is probably for those 2.2% of players that complete the Ashes of Malmouth on Ultimate Difficulty anyway, but I don´t mind it, the mats are farmable, and it gives you something to do. 
Yes, it’s something they craft… but they craft with GD stash (aka, cheats)
Please don´t accuse people of cheating, just because GD allows cheating.
Thank you.
True I do have some decent ones. It was just such a shock when I went though four max toon’s wealth trying to get two specific rolls on a pair of boots…only to end up broke with a few decent ones, but nothing amazing. I then realised, if the odds were this impossible to craft something amazing, why the hell am I trying to farm that MI belt he also needs?! I can’t even craft the boots! Even worse for my sorcerer who needs TWO skullbreakers :eek:
These days I don’t gear my toons…I toon my gear!
These boots are engame item for bored ppl. Once you have 10mil iron coins and nothing to do you can try to craft a good pair.
Spoiler - Mytical final march outclass 99,9% of boots you can craft, so I stopped bother with them . I crafter 32 double-rare boots and 5 pair were godlike, 10 pair usable, other just trash.
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60854
In my experience, it´s not hard to craft decent ones (decent, not awesome), but RNG is obviously a factor here.
This.
Often builds with that will have GDStash-invented the gear (not all, but many). The odds of actually rolling that in crafting are really really low for just the suffix, let alone a double rare prefix/suffix.
But if you have a feel for prefix/suffix that may be useful in future, then you can make something and save it for later -> something that might fill a resistance gap etc, allowing for more flexibility in the rest of the gear.
Since this thread has turned into a crafting thread, I have a question:
how easy to get is an MI with two specific magic affixes?
Like a Stalwart _ of Protection for example, for a build that badly needs DA.
A thousand drops? Less, more?
Finding a exact combination is extremely unlikely. But I have good news to you - you don’t need a exact combination at all. Stalwart of Readiness/Dranghoul is not that different from Stallwart of protection. There is plenty of rare suffixes/affixes that offer DA.
Well, according to the math:
assuming each magic prefix/suffix has equal weight
GDtools shows 364 magic prefix and 428 magic suffix for Medals.
I’ll ignore the rare prefix/suffix for simplicity and assume rare odds are so much less that their impact on magic odds is small. (iirc, realistically when crafting boots= one rare seemed to be ~ 1/6 boots? or something like that).
Now some of these are divided among 8 tiers and some are duplicates (AoM addition usually at tier 85) and some, such as Stalwart are of only 1 tier and a duplicate.
So for quick and dirty I’ll assume generally each has ~9 divisions (tiers + AoM duplicates)
364/9 x 428 / 9 = ~ 1 in 2000
(I made a lot of assumptions, but my RNG would seem lower than that; but rng is fickle)
Never thought of Final March that way… Formidable SG of Arcane Winds might be better though (minus aether res and the skills)
…but sadly they don’t. I’ve spent over 100 mil on stoneplates and I’ve yet to craft of Kings with a rare prefix.
He was asking about 2 magic (prefix/suffix), not rare. But maybe each is weighted, yes.
When seeking rare prefix/suffix…you also need to include all the magic ones with the rares for the odds.
Edit: also an assumption I should have listed is that rare prefix/suffix has a minor impact when looking for magic prefix/suffix only. Rare chances would realistically impact the odds for a specific magic, but rares are certainly weighted much less % chance than magic. So…for the quick and dirty estimate I ignored their influence on odds.
I suppose the question must be asked at this point, and I probably already know the answer. The blueprint can only be dropped?
Edit: Nvm, I found the blueprint.
Congratulations and welcome to the SG club. Keep in mind that the journey from dropping the blueprint to crafting Thunderstruck SG of Kings is one of the longest in life.
All affixes are weighted, also craft is dependent on char level. Btw, someone in discord asked me what are the odds of getting stonehide of kings and I’ve made a small tool that allows you to check it for any affix combination: https://www.grimtools.com/shared/affix/, although for now the only item you can choose is Stonplate Greeves.
Interesting and very nice table info, Dammitt! That should maybe get stickied somewhere. Guide or Trade thread?
So the OP answer, based on Dammitt’s table:
- for Stoneplate Greaves :
Stalwart prefix in any combination ~ 1 in 9, so very favorably weighted.
Protection suffix ~1 in 33
-Stalwart of Protection = ~1 in 315
And as Ptirodaktill mentioned, those odds can be improved by being open to other types of suffixes with +DA, such as Of Readiness.
-Stalwart of Protection or Stalwart of Readiness ~1 in 170
(As for “Stonehide of Kings” …~1 in 135,000.
Although Kings suffix by itself is only ~1 in 400)
Keep in mind that the journey from dropping the blueprint to crafting Thunderstruck SG of Kings is one of the longest in life.
~1 in 160K odds for that. :rolleyes:
(fun fact…at 35K iron bits each = 5600 million bits, if you need to roll so many.)
Yeah you could craft those but in reality it is near impossible. I have long since quit trying to hunt perfect roll MI’s it’s just not very fun at all. But gd offers lots of sources to min-max your resists and stuff so in most cases legendary gear will work just fine.