Grenadier Pyromancer build ideas

Most of the builds for the Pyromancer are based around the Fire Strike line, but I want to try something different. The skills I want to build around are Grenado and Canister Bomb for burst and crowd control respectively. Ulzuin’s Chosen is a must have as it increases the damage and reduces the cooldown of those skills. From the Occultist mastery, Curse of Frailty slows and reduces resistances and defensive ability; while Solael’s Witchfire adds chaos and vitality damage.

As for other abilities, here are a few I think would work well:

Blood of Dreeg (health regen)
Vindictive Flame/Blast Shield (protection from enemies getting too close)
Flashbang (more crowd control)
Stun Jacks (stuns and syncs with UC)
Blackwater Cocktail (debuff and damage)
Thermite Mine (more damage)

As for attributes, I would allocate most to spirit and physique, with only a token amount in cunning. I haven’t though about devotion yet, though from I have heard, I should be getting mostly resistances.

Any thoughts, ideas and discussion are welcome.

Making bomber builds is really only viable with Arcanist.

I mean it can work with Pyro but you’re really only taking CoF and um…CoF unless you want to delve into the physical to chaos conversion shenanigans.

You really don’t have enough skill points to take every skill you listed. If you invest heavily into Demo’s nukes you’re going to be left with pretty much no skill points left.

The real issue with bomber builds is they start off incredibly strong but lose to “LMB builds” later in the game. They can still hold their own but aren’t even comparable. It’s like picking a support in Dota. :slight_smile:

http://grimcalc.com/build/Sh0B3s
Something like this maybe. You can use conversion to make Grenado be predominantly Chaos/Fire bomb. You’ll definitely need Eldritch Fire from the constellations etc.

Thanks for the reply.

I wasn’t indicating to take all of the skills I listed, just suggestions for skills that I thought would work. I must admit that I am not very good when it comes to meta gaming.

I didn’t know about the state of bomber builds in the game. I suppose that’s why everyone goes for Fire Strike.

The problem is that going with a Pyromancer Build that focuses on cannister bombs and grenades is that you won’t have time for main attacks a lot as your main damage outputs will be on cooldown far more than you think.

Whereas a Sorcerer Build focused around Firestrike and Grenades will have much more uptime on damage output.

Ohh my god, man, NO ! Don’t take consacrated blades on a grenado spaming build. The convertor affects only WPS and grenado has no WPS in it. Get rid of the entire Solael’s Whitchfire line - it is useless if you do not go fire strike.

Furthermore, chaos is one of the weakest damage types in the late-game and requires either specific legendary weapons (e.g. Exterminus, Fang of Ch’thon) or relics (e.g. Malediction, Necrosis) in order to debuff mobs reliably.

To the OP - the fact that your ideas are outside of the “meta” should not concern you. GD is a game about mathematics and min-maxing. It is a far greater achievement to finish Ultimate with zero deaths while playing your own build than to copy what others have done in the past, dying ad nauseam to get overpowered gear.

If you are going spam grenado, try to increase your cast speed and spam Stun Jacks-Quick Jacks. Since converted Stun Jacks has no cooldown, cast speed at 200% will allow you to fire tons of projectiles. This will proc Ulzuin’s Chosen reliably and let you spam Grenado.

Poor scaling and long cooldowns

I wish they make Grenado scale in atleast 1 damage type and rework Ulzuin passive again

This is my version of a bomber Pyro. Its all about debuffs and kiting because its squishy as a marshmallow, but I’m having fun playing it.
http://grimcalc.com/build/OgFPjY

Nope. Back in the day, I made a Grenado build which dealt more “Chaos” damage than “Fire” by converting the high physical damage of Grenado to Chaos using well yeah - Consecrated Blade.

The conversion works on all skills including Vindictive Flame, Stun Jacks. In fact anything in the demo tree which has physical can do Chaos damage. It’s not restricted to WPS or even %Weapon Damage.

Wait: I found the thread on that build.
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26235&highlight=let's+discuss+conversion

My Grenadier/Sapper build with Arcanist as second class.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37552

I think Arcanist is a better choice since it offers better synergy. But Curse of Frailty is a great buff.