Will you have to buy everytime Grim Dawn releases something like DLC or an expansion? My brother bought me the AoM, but I just realized that if Grim Dawn releases another content, I’d probably have to pay again and I don’t want to go on that spiral… yet since I don’t make money. Can’t there be some free updates or expansions like how free games are? It’s a different game but like Overwatch, you buy the game and Blizzard just constantly updates it with new heroes and maps, there were no DLCs… I guess because Blizzard doesn’t need the extra money?
Port Valbury was a free update. Most of the updates they make to the game are free - AoM was an expansion and it was a pretty good one for the money IMO. Also, comparing Overwatch with Grim Dawn? Blizz sells lootboxes to make money off whales, Grim Dawn does no such thing and I pray they don’t ever.
As tycho said, OW earns a shit ton of cash from microtransactions. There’s no way Heroes of the Storm or League of Legends would do as well as they do if no one bought them…
And there have been quite a few free updates. We just got 2 new maps for Crucible last patch, and soon™ we will have a free roguelite dungeon addition.
Oh, that’s rich. Please compare D3 + Reaper of Souls prices and content you get for the money with GD + AoM. Also Crate doesn’t sell BS like new hero or some stupid war chests… One of the greediest companies doesn’t need money, sure. 
Also get a job. I say that in the nicest way possible.
Blizzard makes a lot of extra money from in-game purchases, so do pretty much all ‘free’ games. Either the publisher makes money by you buying the game / expansion, or by you buying stuff in game, sometimes both. There is no such thing as free.
I prefer the model where I pay once and expect Crate to stick to it.
Honestly, it’s not a worry. Grim Dawn isn’t raining expansions or new releases like most of the series out in the gaming industry. If it were, I think Zantai would have lost any and all sanity by now 
If there is going to be another expansion, I don’t think we’ll hear about it for quite some time and even then, it won’t be until awhile after that it releases like with Ashes of Malmouth.
…and a haircut. You dang hippie kid, you.
(Fixed that for you, Tycho.)
I find it interesting when people talk about “greedy” companies, or somehow try to compare the level of greed at different companies. Blizzard is a great company and has made many awesome (and many more not so awesome) games over the years. Crate is a great company and has made one awesome game (and is working on at least one other game that I assume will also be awesome), but if you think that Art Bruno is any less greedy than Bobby Kotich then you’re not giving Art enough credit. Crate is in the business of making money, and when we support them by buying their games, or supporting their kickstarter, or buying fucking George Washington wigs or custom maps or whatever, they in return give us killer content for a game that we really like and, hopefully, will stay in business long enough to continue supporting said game, making expansions, and maybe if we’re lucky even bring new games to market in future.
Every company is and should be greedy. The only difference from our perspective is that it’s easier to feel that a smaller indie studio like Crate really needs MY or YOUR support, whereas Blizzard is so huge that it’s easier to look at them as somehow evil or malign.
Go easy on the OP folks. It’s pretty obvious he/she is very young!
Agree with Evok, be gentle folks, the OP is on the young side. Plus it’s nearly Christmas - peace and goodwill to all please.
Seoserang, firstly - apart from the new rogue dungeon which will be free to people who have the AoM expansion - there aren’t any plans at the moment for more GD content. I’m sure there’ll be ongoing tweaks/improvements to the game, but whether there’ll be any more expansions or even a GD2 the devs haven’t decided. For the foreseeable future they have other projects they’re working on - some are GD related and others aren’t. We’ll hopefully get some news/info about one of them in a couple of months.
And there’s an easy way to make sure you can afford any new stuff you’re interested in, even if you’re too young for a job yet. I assume you get pocket money? Well, put a set amount aside each time you get your pocket money. Put it in a piggy bank or open a bank account and start saving. It’s a good habit to get into, especially when you do get old enough to earn money. Always make sure you have a supply of ready cash saved up rather than relying on credit cards, loans, etc, which can easily get you into debt.
Every company should be in the business of making money, but not all companies are equally greedy, nor is excessive greed good. Just look at Martin Shkreli.
Look at how much the D3 Necromancer cost and how much AoM and then tell me that the D3 Necro is worth its price in comparison. They did manage to sell it at that price point, sure, but Blizzard is bleeding the goodwill it earned in the past and in the long run that will hurt them.
You’re giving the average Blizzard fan too much credit. They don’t care about the cost. They’d likely have payed twice the amount for the necromancer had Blizzard charged that much. And by the time Blizzard vomited out their next big selling point, those people will have already forgotten about being gouged before and happily be gouged again. When you market to the lowest common denominator, you can get away with close to anything.
maybe, but it does not need to be the average fan for Blizzard to bleed goodwill, it could be the ‘top’ 10 or 20% that get disenchanted with them for now.
I certainly am curious to see what the sales numbers for D4 will be. RoS did so poorly the second expansion was scrapped (it still sold millions, but a lot less than D3 itself), so they certainly did not do the franchise any favors with D3.
The truth of the matter is this OP. Companies like Crate need our financial support to fund future content. I understand that you seem very young and not having money for games seems like a concern now but, for the most part, it gets better. If they give us everything free, which seems great on the surface, then the company can’t produce content and dies. I don’t want this game or company to die. The amount of promise they have shown with Grim Dawn is exceptional and I hope they are around for a very long time producing amazing content but they can’t do that without funding. It is why those of us who have money and want to support the game have bought the loyalist pack and things. The AoM dungeon will be free but with the amount of work that went into AoM and the expense of all the behind the scenes stuff it took to bring us the expansion there is no way they could viably or financially give it to us for free.
This is actually a really good opener for the OP to understand how the gaming market works. In reality, every company needs to make money on their games. Even a large company like Blizz needs to show profits for their shareholders/CEO/whoever, or people get fired, or they lose their bonuses, etc.
Back when I first started playing online games, and MMO’s were really the only thing out there, companies sold games the way Crate does. they make a game, and put it in the store. you want it? cough up the dough.
The whole f2p / freemium / microtransaction craze was a dynamic shift, but it didn’t change the need for a developer to make money, and they still do. They just take advantage of the consumers by branding it differently. You still end up paying for the game. or, at best, you take advantage of someone else who is willing to pay more and essentially “cover your costs”.
because each player who plays the game has a cost. back in the “old school” days, when you had to drag your ARPG up the hill both ways in the snow barefoot, everyone paid the same cost, and it was right up front on the price sticker at Wal-mart.
This all changed when companies realized they could leech gobs of extra money out of poor saps like me by sectioning off parts of the game, making the rest free, and then charging even more for those special little “bits” they sectioned off.
The cost is still there though. It’s just hidden behind a bunch of marketing sludge and foggy details as to what really constitutes “free”. But instead of counting the cost of one game per player, they lump it into pools of cost over time, and equate it to timeshares, and put it on fancy graphs for the share-members board meetings.
Me, I like the straight up front honesty of a game that still has a price tag. It’s why I still love games like GD, and Why I still pay for subscriptions on games like SWtOR and FFXIV. Because I hate the sludge that’s been deposited on the gaming community with all the marketing crap.