GrimSheet: Endgame Build Table - ETE edition [v1.41]

PSP = pseudopets (I think)

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OK, so things like Totems, Mortar traps, Blade spirit ?

PSP - Player Scaled Pets

yes, but if a build also uses any other casts/attacks to deal noticeable amount of damage it’s considered to be a Hybrid

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Thank you !

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXapd92
Class: Spellbreaker
Author: nofika4u
Patch Version: 1.1.9.1
CR timing: 4:22
SR: -
Naked CR: -


Rather squishy as seen in the video, needs phys res rolls on both helm and legs kinda…
But I got to use Attak Seru!
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that is something seen indeed rarely

what does !# stand for in the sheet?

been nerfed and not tested since.

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Is there something wrong with the Inquisitor ?

6 of its 8 class combo are in the bottom 10.

Is it because it doesn’t work well with a lot of classes, or maybe the community doesn’t like theorycrafting on it ?

First of all, Inquis is a class that got multiple nerfs over the course of years. Second of all, all these classes either don’t have enough diversity or they don’t have outstanding builds ( other classes do same things but better ). Or they don’t have synergy.
Some of the classes are mostly lightning based like Vindicator and Lightning dmg is not a strong as it used to be so there’s also that to take into account.
Finally, Inquisitor is mostly a supportive class so it’s pretty obvious that combinations with other supportive classes like Occultist and Oathkeeper would end up not performing as well as other classes with stronger damaging skills.

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Could you elaborate on that ?

Which classes would you consider support and which would be “main” classes if you will ?

Classes that have generic buffs or skills to support another class ( resistances, resistance reduction, OA/DA buffs), for example Occultist has Curse of Frailty and Blood of Dreeg that are both used in the vast majority of Occultist builds. Inquisitor has Seal and Word of Renewal. Oathkeeper has Ascension and Vire’s Might for mobility.

These classes don’t have strong skills that you focus only on them ( except EoR) so you are probably using another damaging skill from other classes to make up for it.

Paladin for example is a class that screams fire synergy, but aside from the fact that they have no set dedicated to them, their skills are not strong enough to compete with Demolitionist’s fire skills.
Or rather, Inquisitor can’t support Oathkeeper’s skills well, Occultist can.

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I see. Thanks for the insight

What about the other classes we haven’t mentioned yet ? where do they stand ?
Soldier, Arcanist, Nightblade, Necromancer ?

Those can be main classes same as suppurt

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Here’s a short exercise I made with the ranking in Grimsheet
This doesn’t have much scientific value, but it’s still fun to think about for people like me who like to over-analyse everything.

“Total” is points granted for each mastery (for example, Dervish is rated 10, so it gives both Oathkeeper and Nightblade 10 points)
“Top 10” and “Bottom 10” are the number of masteries each class has that is ranked at those positions.

total top 10 bottom 10
Arcanist 42 4 3
Soldier 32 1 2
Demolitionist 33 2 2
Shaman 41 3 1
Occultist 37 2 2
Nightblade 49 3 0
Inquisitor 25 1 6
Necromancer 40 1 2
Oathkeeper 43 3 2

Some thoughts:

  • Arcanist is a very polarized class when it comes to synergy: it’s either fantastic, or horrible, no in-between. It has the most top masteries, and the second most bottom ones.
  • Most classes have at least 2 masteries in the bottom of the ranking where synergy is just not there apparently. Except for nightblade (lowest is Saboteur) and Shaman (vindicator) Seem they have apparent synergy with almost any class
  • Holy hell is Inquisitor helpless outside of Infiltrator…
  • Soldier’s only top 10 mastery would be much lower if it wasn’t for Retal Warlords (as the sheet specifically mentions it would be in the bottom half otherwise) Along with the second lowest score, makes it the obvious second-worst after Inquisitor.
  • Nightblade not only has the 2nd highest number of top masteries, and no bottom ones, but also has the highest score overall, with 6/8 masteries in the top half.
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^ And, of course, this is totally dynamic and moved with every patch. I remember S&B soldier-based classes being meta. Now they’re meh. I think the GD meta has definitely moved from tanky melee to casters now we’re more-or-less at the end.

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Retaliation Sword and board made non retal sword and board after FG release obsolete. Retal builds have both immortality and more dmg while typical sword and board barely got any buffs ever since.

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To make a long story short - yes

It actually has some value so thanks for presenting the data.

Well, yes. Classes as battle mage and spellbinder are pretty much the opposite sides of a spectrum.
With one being very diverse and powerfull and the other having pretty poor variety and being overall weak.

Yes, although fire paladin is not that bad thanks to the recent itemization tweaks in its favor, i should probably post two of my builds that should bump the class a lot. Purifier is also reasonable powerfull.
As for other combos:
Tactician - absolute garbage of a class, it has no face nor niche.
Apostate - weak, but people try to build around it, so not that bad variety-wise.
Deceiver - same as tactician but even worse.
Vindicator - has the worst variety in the entiety of the game.
Mage Hunter - probably decent, but lacks recent builds.

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Which ones ?

I’d be happy to see those! I’m trying to optimise a Paladin too (Pierce/bleed with Goredrinker) and my limits as a theorycrafter are showing… More build examples would help, even if they’re not the same type at all.

Thank you :slight_smile:

In last 2 months like 50% of my builds are all Apostates. Not the best classy by any means, but really versatile class and with Bonemonger set you can go in different directions. Also vitality RoH or other vitality casters, different aether builds, some auto attackers.

Mage Hunter is great defensive class and offensively it’s suited for spamming casters. Like Purifier most of the top builds aren’t updated but lightning/cold/fire AAR are good, cold or lightning PRM (even fire). Also some FoI combinations and Arcanor 2H MH as well. Some proc based MH with Chain Lightning as filler. To some extent chaos or aether builds will be working too.

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