*No pun intended
Foreword
The aim of this table is to gather data for every single endgame* build there is. However, as you can probably guess, first of all a proper measurement system should be developed. So before we start, I want to clarify 2 things:
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It is impossible and pointless to compare BUILDS. You, I and that one person - we all have different tastes and preferences how to play the game we like. Some people love “2 buttons builds”, some hate them. Some people enjoy high mobilty - others prefer to be rooted to the ground. Things like - comfort, visual effects, the feel - all of that is purely subjective.
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BUILD PERFORMANCE, on the other hand, is an objective measurment. Ability to complete MC, rogue-likes dungeons, Shattered Realm, Celestials, Crucible - all of that can and should be compared. You’re absolutely free to disagre about requirements I have chosen, but that won’t change a thing. And even if you don’t care about that high endgame content, you can still use this table to find builds, that at the very least are good without a single exception.
Oh, and the last but not least - this is a softcore list
Introduction
@Stupid_Dragon and I have made this thing. You can check his reddit thread
Primary the goal was to make his previous ranking a bit more data-based, however, as we progressed we realised that it had become more important than just ranking.
And here it is. Almost 200 builds. Yet, we still miss a lot of them The ones we couldn’t find, the outdated ones and the builds we are not even aware of.
Currently includes around 250 builds.
If you want to show some great performance / uplift your favorite class combo / prove us wrong in our judgment - then simply give us a build that fits our requirments (you can see them below).
Hope our work wasn’t fruitless.
Requirements and Criteria
Here are they:Criterium 0: in order for build to be presented it needs to be capable of clearing SR75-76 until the timer goes down OR it should be able to clear CR less that in 6 minutes. BUILD MUST BE AT LEAST FROM v. 1.1.6.0 or we consider it outdated, unless smbd proves otherwise. Also, it should either be different from already posted builds or perform better.
(It’s hard to descride what is considered to be different in 2 a.m. so i’m probably will add this lately)
After that, build receives honourable 0 points. In orded to gain them, any of the belowmentioned requirements should be passed.
Shattered Realm performance is measured that way:
85 - 1 points
90 - 2 points
95 - 3.2 points
100 - 5 points
105 - 6.8 points
110+ - 8 points
Crucible performance is measured that way:
<5.30 - 1 point
<5.00 - 2 points
<4.45 - 3.2 points
<4.30 - 4.6 points
<4.20 - 6 points
<4.10 - 7.2 points
<4.00 - 8.2 points
*Amount of points and categories both for SR and CR might change in future.
Celestials:
Avatar of Mogdrogen (Mog) - 0.4 points
Ravager - 0.6 points
Crate of Entertainment (CoE) - 0.8 points
Callagadra - 0.8 points
Naked CR means no buff&beacons CR run with extra spawn (aether clusters are ofc banned.)
<7.00 - 0.8 points
<6.35 - 1.2 points
<6.15 - 1.6 points
<6.00 - 2 points
- Objective?! Cut the bullshit, there’s no way this is objective. Can’t you see that is severely biased towards pilots performance? What genius have decided to judge CR according to the best timer and not the average one? Since when anything past SR76 became relevant, there’s no reward! And what’s wrong with that point scaling?
-Okay, listen here. We/I don’t take into account how skilled the pilot is, because if I/we do so, then we/I should also care about PC configurations, amount of runs done, political situation in your country, what moon phase it is - and that’s just too much. So when we judge perfomance, I assume that pilot had done their best and that other people can repeat their success. If a sweaty builder is able to beat SR110, then why wouldn’t you be able to do it with some practice? They are not superhumans or naturally talented - they just practiced, because they found it fun. Besides, you can look at it as “what build is capable of”, rather than “what build can do 100% of time without breaking a sweat”. Again - here I/we assume that pilot have shown builds best performance, unless it’s proven otherwise. (I know about Russel’s Teapot, but the thing is - perfect performance doesn’t exist, it’s like a limit - functions moves to it, but it never reaches it.)
Now about best timers - I know, i’m also not happy about that one, however, most builders tend to show only best ones, at rarely do they mention the average one. If everybody starts to write the average ones, then we will change that.
SR past 76 - same reason why we still care about Crucible, although it’s practically beter to farm SR65-66 and some totems. It’s not about farm, it’s about performance in different environments.
Scaling: the difference between, let’s say, SR85 and SR90 compared to SR90 and SR95 are not even close. You can check up the SR scaling yourself. Same goes CR, difference in damage between sub 5 and sub 4.30 is much bigger than between sub 5.30 and sub 5.
I hope my answer at least partly have satisfied you.
How to interpret this data
Class can be ranked low in our table for three main reasons:- it’s unpopular and therefore there’re not many polished builds > it’s considered to be weak (Reaper used to be a weak one, until @banana_peel proved the opposite)
- most builds for the combe are outdated for some reason (Paladin, Mage Hunter, Purifier and so on)
- class is actually weak (sabo and deceiver)
It can be a mixture of those though.
The opposite is also true - class is popular and therefore there’re a lot of different builds. (Dervish, Conjurer and Spellbinded). Or it can be like: class is great and therefore popular. It’s pretty hard to distinguish cause from consequence.
Submission form
If you want to make sure, that I won’t forget about your build or you have updated an already mentioned in the sheet build, then you’d better write the form in the replies.
In order for me to make things easier, follow this form:
Link to the thread/GT link, if you haven’t created one:
Class:
Author:
Patch Version:
CR timing: [e.g. 5.03, if you don’t play crucible, leave - here]
SR: [e.g. 85, if you don’t play SR, leave - here]
Naked CR: [e.g. 8.40, if you don’t play naked CR, leave - here]
Celestials List them
Every mentioned achievement must be proven by any sort of evidence.
To @Stupid_Dragon, cause that was his idea and for all techical support (i’m dumb with excel). It was a pleasure to work with you on that one.
To @allpeople who have produced so many truly creative and great builds. Although most of them have left us alone, the shafts of light sometimes grace the corner of rooms
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