Help to fix my Spellbinder

Hi,

i’m running a Drain Essence Spellbinder which is lvl79 currently. My current build carried me through normal and elite (pretty easyly to my surprise) but in Ultimate i am struggling now. Drain Essence feels a bit weak on the damage side and survivability is an issue especially against single target. I mainly focused on Aether damage.

My current build looks like this: http://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN4DvzmN

Any suggestions on how to change my build to make it viable to farm gear in Ultimate? Please note that i don’t have all the sets and shiny legendaries to work with. So i will most likely rely on faction gear for now.

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Drain Essence is a weak skill which badly needs buffs. As you progress in Ultimate, it’ll only get worse, no matter what you do. Even at 25/16 you won’t see much improvement. I’m at the start of expansion content in Ultimate and it’s just a nightmare to play my Spellbinder. Seriously, I’ve got 25/16 skill poitns, 1500% aether damage, 50% resist reduction, 170% cast speed, and against the bigger enemies, it’s just… nothing. I think it’s because the skill relies a lot of flat damage, and there are items like that that exist, (a nice pair of gloves) but they’re epics and the like, you can’t really find that stuff lying around.

Really hoping for a buff here, cause endgame it’s simply a borked skill.

I don’t see anything majorly wrong with your build. You took resist reduction, the right skills. It’s just not a good skill right now. Or it’s just massively gear dependent, which hardly helps your cause, because grinding for gear just to progress isn’t something any other builds have to do. None that I’ve played at least.

Anyway, here’s some long shot tips:

In the Arkovian Undercity, Undead Champions drop shields that will give you a nice buff to your Drain Essence, and some extra protection, though I’m not sure it’d be better than the shield you have. Check it out here: http://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8814

Also, get some cast speed on your gloves. If you can. You could probably switch out Antivenom Salve for the Restless Remains component on your gloves, and then find the extra 10 poison resist somewhere else. Either way, gaining some more life steal/cast speed would be good for you.

Perhaps try crafting an Aether wand. So you can get some better mods.

Maybe someone else knows the way to make this thing work, because I’d love to know.

I am aware of those shields. I used one that i found in low lvl 20th up until my current shield. Was really changing my life in early Levels.
Looks like Drain Essence is a dead end for the time being. That’s too bad i really loved the playstyle until now and it seems it’s the only caster option from necromancer as main mastery.

Any other recommendations to get into Ultimate farming with this char? Perhaps respec into some other skills and gear up on faction vendors?

If you get tired of the under powered nature of drain essence, you can switch to AAR. It’s also quite fun for channeling, and works well with Siphon Souls.

Aether based Drain Essence doesn’t really work well as main skill. If you analyze the Necro tree, it’s better at Vitality than Aether.
Arcanist is the only class with strong primary Aether based skills which you can build around. For a Necro based caster, go Vitality with another secondary classes would be a better bet.

Just look at Drain Essence branch at max rank:

[SPOILER]60 Aether @ 16
74 Vitality @ 12 (Decomposition)
83 Vitality Decay / second @ 16

Assume 0.2 second per tick (150% cast spd),
Base DPS = 300 Aether + 370 Vitality + 83 Vitality Decay

Vitality outperform Aether by 50% (300 to 453). And also if you mainly scale Aether, most of Siphon Souls Vitality dmg will be wasted.[/spoiler]

If I’d build a Necro caster around Drain Essence and Siphon Souls, I’d scale Vitality and go Shaman (which I’d prefer) or Occultist as secondary class.

Shaman playstyle (skill rotation) without transmuted Storm Totem (Note: I’d drop Siphon Soul for VitaStorm totem…):
Wendigo Totem -> Devouring Swarm -> Siphon Soul -> channel Drain Essence

Occultist playstyle:
Curse -> Siphon Soul -> Sigil -> channel Drain Essence

Moreover, there are great Vitality devotion procs like Twin Fangs, Wendigo’s Mark, Scale, Hungering Void and Rattosh which are all better than Aether proc (Arcane bomb’s sluggish arming with 2 sec cooldown… though Arcane currents is ok-ish).

Imagine with Shaman, your enemy is hit with -80% vitality debuff (Devour + Rattosh) while you’re draining them in a Wendigo Totem with constant proc of devotion skills. You’ll be doing at least 3 times Vitality damage than what you’re doing now with Aether. On top of that, your sustain in battle with massive leech and Wendigo totem will be insane.

Theoretical base Vitality DPS of above Ritualist at max rank with 150% cast spd:

[SPOILER]Drain Essence = 370 Vitality + 83 Decay = 453
Siphon Soul = (262 Vitality + 126 Decay) / 2 = 194 (divided by 2 cuz up time is half)
Devouring Swarm = 65
Wendigo Totem = 78
Twin Fangs = 221 (assume 1 proc per sec avg. Also ignoring pierce dmg and weapon dmg)
Wendigo Mark = 240
Rattosh = 140 (vitality only)

Base Vitality DPS = 1391

With Hungering Void up and 2000+% Vitality scaling, that’s over 30K raw DPS without counting +skills, skill modifiers, crit, enemy negative resistance and other damage types. And it goes even higher with VitaStorm Totems![/spoiler]

If I had to stick with Arcanist, I would scale Vitality, max Devastation and convert fire to vitality (with Decree of Malmouth, Lifeblaze Mantle and Darkflame Chestguard). Vita meteors will rain down onto enemies while I drain them dry!

This is my build details, hope it help you :slight_smile:
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61563&highlight=spellbinder
168660 DPS for Drain Essence. with all max resistances

the skill is OP if you build it correctly with the items, shield sux with the build …
this is my build 168660 Drain Essence DPS, killing anything in matter of a 2 or 3 sec max over 5 targets same time :slight_smile:
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61563&highlight=spellbinder

Drain essence becomes OK at 26/16, if I remember well the last point gives you a 15% damage increase. The good news is that you have tons of gear for it so reaching the cap is not that hard.
The next step is to get the uroboruuk set.
I don’t have it yet and my dps with DE is 90000. With the full set you can easily reach 160k dps as Phlegethonyarre said.

Thanks for the insights to your Build. The Problem is, that i don’t have all the gear yet and have to Farm it first (and also get to lvl94). Beginning of Ultimate content feels pretty hard with my current gear though.

well you can do as i did, you can farm inside the crucible, it gives crazy exp and faster way to farm for legendary, thats how i got all my gear btw, i never farmed any nemesis :slight_smile: i got full geared in matter of 3 days no more and sure not playing 24/7 coz i have life :slight_smile:
if you need some gear to help you let me know i have tones i can send you :slight_smile:
if you will go crucible, set your devotions, Augments and components to HP/RES … forget about dmg, specially in the gladiator level +100, also take extra care to know the crucible`s buffs on waves especially these 2:

  • one looked like a golden skull, that buff is -25% to your HP
  • one red skull with a star or something on the top right corner, that gives mobs +25% crt dmg
    if the 2 buffs shows together same time, mobs might 1 hit kill you with crazy dmg almost +14k per crt hit from them
    red buffs are mobs buffs, gold is for player
    if you need help with any item or crafting let me know i will glad to help you if i can :slight_smile: GL there

I don’t have crucible and i will not buy it.

awww in that case god with you :slight_smile:
and the offer still up, if you want items tell me what you need and i will send you a save file with it :slight_smile:
oh also you craft Mystical items from a Crafter show up starting from Elite level in the Malmouth steelcap distract rift, i attached a pic for the dungeon name and crafter location :slight_smile: TOMB OF HERALD MATHIS

Thanks for your gear offer but it kinda defeats the purpose of playing the game :slight_smile: I did some changes to my gear and got Drain Essence to 24/16 and ~40k sheet dps. I did try to Start Elite AoM content but…lots of deaths. Don’t know maybe it’s me…

AoM is crazy busy with tones of mobs, also the fiend their can stop your DE channeling and that alone can be deadly if your gear is not high enough, thats why Ill Omen will be your best friend their, on my play i used this combo:
Ill Omen attached to the Arcane bomb + Haunt relic for the Haunt
the Ill Omen spread extremely fast fearing every thing while placing mines every where same time you spam the Haunt skill (it has zero cool down) and watch every thing dies by it self, i used that combo till my DE went to the point that the skill can stand alone, also 24/16 is good yes but it will drain energy like crazy so you need to balance its level a little with your current energy regen