I am thinking about warlock or witch hunter?

Just levelling with an occultist atm, have lvl 20, not put anything into stats or chosen a second class.

I am working on something with sigil off consumption and curse off fraility, dont know how it will work out later. Everybody seems to use the eye off dreeg but since my main build is a gunslinger I am QUITE tired off ranged splash attacks… :D.

Anyway what can u reccomend that will give me something else to levay here… I dont mind have to play ‘‘smart’’ just I would like to combine spells to get a good effect off my char… Anyway what do you think is a ‘‘fun’’ second class to get maximum enjoyment, I dont want to have summons so druid seems a bit dull. Soldier it’s just a rightlick melee dude so I assume its either nightblade for poison elemtal thingy or something with a arcanist?

If u´re going to focus on vitality damage and elemental as sigil… I recommend u picking Shaman and make a conjurer vitality caster

If I skip the elemental thingy and go more fore poision and slow I suppose nightblade seems like something fun to combine with?

Warlock, Pyromancer and Conjurer all have their pros and cons.
What it comes down to is what you want to pair it with and what damage types you want to specialize in with it.

My favorite Sigil builds are my warlock followed closely by my pyromancer. I don’t really care for Conjurer very much as none of the Shamans skills that go with it do anything for me.

So nobody recomends witch hunter here because?..

For sigil no
For DEE yes

what do DEE mean?

DEE refers to Dreeg’s Evil Eye, an Occultist skill.

I just dont get why it has to be pyro/aracanist since nightblade has skills that lowers elemental/vitality/poison resistance aswell?

It doesn’t have to be you can go witch hunter if you want. Phantasmal Blades can be used as a low cooldown 2nd damage skill. Blade trap can be used to give Sigil much better crit rate. Circle of Slaughter can be used for the chance to fumble. Then you have Phantasmal Armor for bonus armor and Blade Barrier for any oh shit moments. You can also use Shadow Strike instead of chaos strike.
I just think Pyromancer, Warlock and Conjurer are better choices.

But from a ‘‘fun’’ factor do you think its a more interesting combo to play?
And how about that blood of dreeg skill that takes a % off hp, is that something that can work with nightblade?

This isn’t something I can answer as everyone has a different idea of what fun is.
Personally Sigil is one of my favorite skills in the game along with Black Water Cocktail. I haven’t done a Witch Hunter Sigil build so not sure how it will be to play. But if you enjoy Sigil and Nightblade then I would assume you would have fun playing it.

This is going to sound trite, however, it basically comes down to your preferred playstyle. I have a vitality Conjurer and it’s pretty strong but I got bored of it quick as it’s pretty safe in majority of encounters (very high resists, think my lowest is 73% plus all the AdctH from spells/item/devotion procs). Anything less than a boss is very easy and even then I can face tank a few of them.

So I made a Dual-wield Poison based Witch Hunter and to counter how boring I found the Vit caster, it’s focused on offensive Devotions and gear so I can’t face tank things and not die (admittedly I have 2 heals, Blade Barrier and can reach 2.4k hp/s and 2.3k DA with procs) but it only has 9.2k hp so I always have to be on my toes looking out for dangerous mobs, especially now with the buffs to undead (just makes it even more fun imo). On the other hand, I consistently get 180k DoT ticks on bosses.

TL;DR - Grim Dawn allows to make whatever the hell you want. Just make class you think you’d like and piss around until you find a playstyle/build you find fun.

If you play hardcore it’s more important what you play since if you die you can’t just respecc into something that works for, let’s say ultimate difficulty. Anyways like someone mentioned there are vitality casters who are awesome (i’m playing one multiplayer with my friend)… you use sigil and vitality stormtotem. Or you could try a witchblade. Or dualwielding poison, you might need to be a bit more precise in what you’re looking for :slight_smile:

if nothing else, go witch hunter just because it’s a cool name. :slight_smile:

Haha okay I am getting you guys, to explain a bit further. I have an RTS background so having to ‘‘press’’ different buttons more often depending on situations and adapt is more more fun then. Attack and move or just facetank.

I would most likely enjoy a char that is easy to kill but can make absurd amount off damage if u can play him correctly. Basicly a high risk/high reward type off guy :D.

Does that explain things better? And yeah witch hunter sounds kinda cool :D.

So basically, you just waiting for some prince in shining armor who will give you complete and totally legitimate witch hunter build which suits all your preferences while denying meaningful reasons why your exact concept doesn’t really work well. Good job, but take in account that these gents above who’re trying to help have lots and lots of hours in the game and if they cannot provide you with what you want, they can’t do that for a good reason.
If you wanna go for so called “op and fun” concept (or pointless swag of witch hunter whatsoever), just try something yourself. Sitting here and describing your hopes and dreams and at the same time rejecting solid and valuable ideas, you’re not going anywhere really.

Sry guys, didn’t mean anything inappropriate, just watched the thread and got tired.

Take your pick…

If those aren’t to your liking, use the Build Compendium V or forum search function :wink: