Assuming you have infinite resources, gold & best gears etc., what in your opinion is the best build that can face-roll everything?
Whether it’s Glass cannon or top survivability. 
Share your thoughts!
Cadence Witchblade, no competition. You don’t need any particularly hard to find items to build him either.
Pierce Blademaster (given absolutely godly rares), lightning Warder and acid/psn Witch Hunter are high tier as well.
Everything else seems like a gimmick at this point. Some swear by various Calidor’s builds, I’m sceptical.
I would add Cadence Commado to this list. It’s no gimmick, just straight up face smashing. Insane damage and tanking, farms Crucible gladiator easily, ability to invest a lot of points in cunning for damage and OA without hurting your build overall.
Investing in Cunning sounds pretty gimmicky. Demo’s passives are equal Occultist’s and you lose CoF, which is absolutely unacceptable.
Blademasters invest in cunning and they are in your list:P. And it’s optional, you aslo don’t need a special devotion pattern or equippment, it just works naturally.
About COF. Why is it unacceptable? Commando has the highest paper phys damage of all beacause temper is added. Cof has less paper damage but more Quality to it. They even out. Highest crit in crucible is 394 K which is as high as any Which Blade.
I’m not saying that Commando is stronger damage wise but is a very strong contender. As far as survivability goes, Over guard+ Blast shield is ridiculous even if you keep Blast shield at just 5 points. You can rush Anasteria before she has the time to build up her damage. Overall a very solid build
I have to disagree with you on this. Tho I dont like them, in this current state of the game, pet builds, a loot of free space and than everything else.
I have completed a CT build, i will try solo crucible in few days to see how it is effective
Temper flat damage is laughably small. Resistance reduction is king, and physical damage is notoriously hard to reduce. CoF gives a massive boost to that, as well as making the bleeding portion of Blind Rage and Fighting Form useful (almost everyone has close to 100% bleed resistance and there is no good source of bleed resistance reduction available to a Cadence build). These are not even comparable.
BlaM can invest into Cunning somewhat efficiently because of Anatomy of Murder, but I would still suggest going 70+ points in physique.
Blast shield is useless because the shield does the same thing more reliably. Vs bosses (aside from Anesteria and Valdaran i guess), extra physical resistance from Aspect of the Guardian is better.
You could be right, it’s been a long time since I’ve toyed around my summoner. In crucible, I could see a point, but pet builds are just so slow in nemesis runs and challenge dungeons.
It was long probably Guy with pet build drooped ulti Mog for 5 mins if I recall correctly.
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Its a shame to invest that much into phys for BM.
I know how powerful CoF is, I’ve recommended the Cadence Witchblade to many people. I am just offering a solid alternative after experiencing it.
Have you tried the commando build to it’s limit? I made it with the Witch Blade in mind as the high standard and it works like that, the damage is there. I am telling you from personal experience not theory crafting.
Edit: The pet build JoV speaks of drops Fabius in 6 seconds in main game.
And my BM has 70 cunning invested and it’s working great, no compromises in equipment or devotion. BM just begs you to invest in cunning so much that i would push farther now after completing it.
Same build / stuff as Jov ? Cadence ones or WPS ones ?
It’s a build i tried with WPS only Beronath auto attack experiment-no cadence no Deathmark. I’ve finished it. Could use a better slicer but it does the job. i’ve only uploaded just one video and stopped because I am waiting for 1.0.0.7 to see what changes there are to equipment and devotions.
Pet builds are the strongest in the game atm. Yes they are stronger than the Cadence WB
You guys mean the elemental conversion warlock pet build, right?
Yea, pet builds kill very quickly, but they are a bitch to do runs with because you can’t use mobility spells to snipe bosses and skip mobs the way melee builds can.
No it’s a Conjurer. This guy
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47232
Made by the chinese community
Well mobility is main reason I would always put BM in front of WB. But its just my opinion cuz I dislike slow movement builds.
Ah, that’s right, they added pet bonuses to a bunch of random items back in 1.0.0.5. I had a lightning pet Conjurer in 1.0.0.4. and it was objectively weaker than a pet Warlock simply because of how good damage conversion is on pets. I guess I could give my Conjurer a whirl in the Crucible, but I still stand by my point that running anything but the Crucible with pets is a chore because the point of boss/dungeon runs is not to kill every single mob while running around like a moron.
As for BlaM being more mobile than WB, I wouldn’t say that’s true in general. It is definitely the case for Fabius runs, but relying on lifesteal to survive means some areas like BoC have to be traversed very carefully. The WB is indestructible, meaning you can ignore 100% of everything that isn’t a boss you want to kill without ever stopping, while the BlaM has to stop and clear some mobs or risk death.
I did a ton of BoC runs with both chars, and WB is slightly faster as well as much more consistent. Then again, neither is as fast at BoC running as the PB Spellbreaker which is sub-par in every other setting, so BoC is not the only benchmark for a good char.
And then there is WH, who is faster than a WB and tankier than a BlaM.
What is it ??? you can’t spoil like that without details ?
And what is PB Spellbreaker ?
I’ve been curious lately about PB. Is it like Jajaja’s spellbreaker that use warpfire to make them usable or have you found a way with cold damage?
PB has such mixed dmage espcially if you make it spammable that only a Wtich hunter seems the way to go without gimmicks.
Didn’t try with Speaker for the Dead items and such. I only tried a bit to Make Northern Wyrm relevant with it’s weird %cast speed bonus instead of attack speed and tought PB is the answer but it takes like 50 seconds to kill Fabius with it. Mobs are fun though
edti:@Isdrydge PB is phantasmal Blades
Idk what kind of setup are you using for BM atm, but WB is not faster in any run BOC included, tho its safer and more confy to play due to tankines. You dont have to think and its pretty much just hold lmb.
Yes WH is tankier but with less dmg output and slower, with much more buttons to pres to be efficient. Going from BM to WH you dont get almost anything quality of life vise (due to button pressing I even think you lose some) but lose some mobility and dps.
P.S. Tbh I feel strange convincing you that BM is still top notch
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Phantasmal blade spelbreaker, ETK made glorious build that still kick asses 