Leveling up after 90 is underwhelming :(

So I just discovered that yet again, you will gain less skill points after 90. So just 1 down from 2. So underwhelming :frowning:

Well there is another expansion coming too. There has to be some limit to define your build.

Again, go to BoC, it’s wayyy faster. Try with exp potion if you have the cash:)

Try leveling after 100. It’s REALLY underwhelming.

I don’t think it’s underwhelming at all.

When you’re stacking +skill points, that one additional skill point makes a HUGE difference.

Why yet again? It’s always been that way. :confused: Did you forget?

I meant the “yet again” that after 50, you get only 2 points, that was such a letdown as well (that was 2 years ago when I first played the game). So many skills yet so few points :frowning:

That’s why you need to choose where you put them wisely young padawan. :smiley: “Working as intended” as Zantai says - frequently!

It’s to prevent you from doing what you could do in Titan Quest. Which was pretty much max the entirety of each mastery.

Don’t think you could do that in TQ either, but in TQ my char was pretty much complete by the time I hit the late 50s level wise, any points beyond that time went into skills I barely used.
In GD otoh there are still plenty of points to spend in useful ways even when my char is done. I don’t think dropping the points per level to 1 was really needed at all.

I got a few characters close to level cap and even before that, i had maxed nearly all of the skills, while still having a few points in other skills.

I think it’s actually kind of possible to max all skills with the Ragnarok expansion increasing the level cap to 85. Unless you gain less skills points after level 75.

I honestly think the gain of only one skill point after level 90 was needed. I have a bunch of builds that would be so much better if you kept gaining two skill points from 90 to 100. That’s an extra 10 skill points that matter quite a lot.

No, but you can max more than you can in GD. Plus to max out the mastery itself needs 50 points compared to only 32 in TQ. And more bonus skill points from quests in TQ as well - 21 in the old game, 30 in the AER one.

there are 200 skill points in each TQ mastery, plus 32 to max the mastery bar.

According to titancalc you get max 222 points in game, so you are just short of getting half the points you would need to max everything… well short of maxing nearly all skills like you claim

I honestly think the gain of only one skill point after level 90 was needed. I have a bunch of builds that would be so much better if you kept gaining two skill points from 90 to 100. That’s an extra 10 skill points that matter quite a lot.

skill points have diminishing returns, anything I got in TQ in the 50s made little difference, antything I got in the 60s made no difference whatsoever.
In GD it takes longer for my build to be complete and the game is harder. I can see plenty of cases where those ‘missing’ 10 points would help me, I am not sure I see any where they would make a build OP that wasn’t already.

I am certain some well thought out builds don’t need them, but my ‘make it up as you go along’ self-found builds would certainly benefit from them

@Mamba;

I’m taking pluses to skills on items into consideration because those play a big role in the amount of skill points you have at the end. Specially when each skill only has 4 ultimate ranks in Titan Quest, while in Grim Dawn they have 10. I have several builds that saved from 30 to 40 points in pluses from items. And even more specially because the amount of items with +1 to skills to a mastery is so common in TQ. Even +2 to all skills in not exactly rare.

Of course if you remove the pluses to skills on items from the equation you can’t max nearly all skills.

Wait, isn’t it 255 skill points due to level cap of 85? How many skills points you get each level after 75? There’s also skills points from quests which 21 extra points. So it should be 276.

Edit: It’s actually 282 skill points at level 85 in Ragnarok.