Hello!
What does community think about going Lightning retal Warder without taking Widow? I really like the idea to collect Targo, Obelisk of Menhir, Vire, Autumn Boar with Turtle for extra defense, Dryad devotion and Salvation relic for healing.
Green medal is without suffix/prefix to disregard it’s influence on the stats.
Idea for this build is to tackle hardcore achievements.
No room for Widow but considering it’s clunky nature and most of mobs should die in any case in view of all the procs in any case.
Ideas?
anything is viable
the question is “why” would you do it
what does targo/anvil actually offer you there in value that widow path doesn’t/“wouldn’t” do better?
so if the question is if it’s doable, sure
is it optimal?, maybe less so (i’d suspect simply from how RR impacts things)
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skipping Widow allows taking Vire - which is 20% on hit with 1 sec removal. I wonder if the damage from Vire may off-set the loss of RR from Widow
i’m pretty sure/positive you can get vire while getting widow 
atleast i’m pretty sure my lightning retal archon/warder etc did so, let me look
Would be interesting to check your spec, thanks.
this is banan’s lightning retal archon Archon, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.6) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator which takes a whole other path
this is my (old) dawn warder
Warder, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.8) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator probably way less than remotely ideal setup these days 
looking at it there should be room for deviation but something on the devos will have to give ofc, “you wont get all”, but my thinking is it’s also not needed/widow offensively is just worth trading off either Boar, or especially Targo, or possibly even anvil because low block on yours