MIs affixes drop chance

Eh did I claim that build presented had those items? :wink:

My point was, that you don’t need subjugators of the wild to plow through SR 65-66… build shown was a SSF (SSF means that you play only with items found by that particular char) build made from “scraps” and it still rocks (in my “main account” I have several such items though).

Show your build, and we can fix it for you without using yber rare items :slight_smile:
If you “need” subjugators of the wild to get past SR 35, you are doing something wrong.

No MI have vendor listed in Grim Tools. Perhaps you can just play the game? Have you NEVER been to bastion of chaos and checked that vendor? :slight_smile:

If they’re like me - no. Never do rogues. :rofl:

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I may post my build another time.
But the main point of this thread are not builds, but rather the fact that certain affix combinations seem to be particularly rare. And even many “of the Wild” dropped already in my case, I never found even one together with the “Subjugator’s” prefix.
And this seems odd, because Zantai mentioned in the MI patch some time ago that the drop chances for item-related affixes would have increased.
So, my main point was that the mentioned combination, “Subjugator’s … of the Wild”, shouldn’t be as rare as it seems to be now.

And I was at that vendor in the Bastion of Chaos often, but I wasn’t particularly interested in checking him always for particular items. But again, for certain MIs it might be worth it.

Well I can tell you that it is easier these days, and I will prove it to you by showing that if “pet base” item drop with rare affix, it is way more likely to be a pet affix. Today I have only anecdotal data, but perhaps tomorrow I will gather 100 bloodsworn rings and show you the distribution.

Well, I can only hope so. But then again, I am running for Zaria and Thall’Nosh already for weeks. A few hundred times. Yes, “of the Wild” dropped several times, but I just don’t get why it so often drops together with completely far off unrelated prefixes, and (almost) never with “Subjugator’s”. The only pet prefix I got was “Wanderer’s”, but that is not what I need.

RNG - the affix and suffix selections are chosen from independent sets.

I can bet all my money on that you don’t need “subjugators” prefix for your build to push beyond SR 35 :wink: I know some guy on discord said he could not get past SR 15 on his build, and he gave it to me and whops I did SR 75 with it. So it also comes down to playing skills.

If I have the 5 mentioned MIs with the “Subjugator’s” prefix, that would push my pet damage from around 1000% to 1450%.
That will increase the performance most definitely :wink: Regarding other details of the build, that is another topic.

Yeah for sure, but it is not the only way to increase damage. My pet build did not for sure have +1450% dmg and still owns SR 65-66… There are things called resistance reduction, attack speed, OA and crit dmg too… look them up :wink:

both my belt and medal had no pet affix at all :smiley:

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I might just try SR again. I am referring to a pet Ritualist. RR is given with Devouring Swarm and most of the pet damage is converted to vitality damage.
I changed my devotions also recently, so I should try again.

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Vitality damage is kinda the damage type that require most RR in the game. Check out how revered pet players make their devotions for vitality pet ritualists.

Seems like you can only reset the vendor in the Bastion of Chaos by logging out and creating a completely new session. That’s time-consuming…

No, you go to the final level, wait there for 20 seconds or so (some say 10seconds is enough and others say it takes 30 seconds), and then go back… this you do with all skeleton key dungeon vendors. I can even make a video for you to demonstrate this.

Ok, I will try that.

I also found one (!) Bloodsworn Codex with “Subjugator’s … of Binding”. After how many hundreds of codices had dropped?
By the way, I tried what you suggested. I was at the vendor in the Bastion of Chaos the last days for hours and hours. Still not one ring with the “Subjugator’s … of the Wild” affix combination.
I seriously think this is too rare.

I have not done statistics on the codexes.

But the bloodsworn rings I have gather quite some data now. Preliminary I can say that around 10% chance to get a rare affix at all, and if you get a rare affix on them it is around 50% chance that is is a rare pet affix. So about 1 in 20 rings on average should be a rare pet affix.

You also have to take into account that “Subjugator’s … of the Wild” is an insane strong item, almost better than all legendary rings for pets (unless you need damage conversion). And I think insane good items also should be rare :slight_smile:

Making good builds should also be about knowledge. I still bet all my life savings that the reason why your vit pet ritualist could not do beyond SR 35 was because you did not make the best use of what you already had (like skills, devotions etc) and not becuase you did not have seven subjugators of the wild items :wink:

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My point was not to evaluate if “Subjugator’s … of the Wild” is strong. I know it is, which is why I want it. My point was rather that “Subjugator’s” is a yellow magical prefix and should drop in combination with a rare suffix.
Again, according to the MI patch notes, affixes should drop based on if the item is, for example, a pet item.
I just expected it would drop at least once in a few hundred times. But it looks like it drops once in thousands of times, and that’s a bit too rare in my view.

I actually changed my devotions and adjusted the skills, and I can do better now in SR with the mentioned ritualist. But again, this thread is not about builds or devotions.

When I am done with collecting “data” for the bloodsworn rings, I am gonna compare that to say living ring etc from ancient grove.

btw this must be in the game code somewhere, why has not people done affix calculators? @tqFan ? Like people did for say diablo II …

I want smart Badge of Mastery so I can get +5 Guardian and +5 Foi more easily :frowning:

I’m too stupid for this questions. Ask @mamba or @Dammitt. Do you mean chance to get a particular affix?

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Exactly, when item level and base item is taken into account.