Seeing how many previously thought impossible Crate made possible and how many new cool (and sometimes not so cool) stuff was added in FoA missing conversions stick out like a sore thumb for me.
This a thread where I will be adding them slowly to the op. If you found one, post it with a screenshot and explanation and ideally build example. I will try to add only the most jarring examples.
Sketched this Oppressor with it. What’s missing is Vitality/Cold conversion to Shattering Smash. There is no item that compliments this spear and adds those conversions for SS. So we end up with an Oppressor build with Soul Harvest (main flat source) only converted for half of our swings. For SS we gotta convert it globally (but then mod conversion to Necrotic loses value).
Fire to Acid conversion is redundant on it as well since Righteous Fervor’s transmuter takes care of it. Come to think about it phys to acid conversion on Ssmash is redundant as well for the same reason.
Wight’s Frost Edge
Good guy Wight lending us his mighty Edge. Build with it is absolute bonkers as far as melees go. And it will justifiably get nerfed. However this item is experiencing the same kind of a conversion problem. It’s meant for a Cold Veilwalker however it only offers crucial Vitality to Cold conversion to one of its wps. So in the end I had to take global conversion items to convert Vitality for Avalanche as well. Which makes Vitality to Cold mod to Necrotic again sorta useless.
At the same time this item has great (although not really that impactful) global Aether to Cold conversion.
All right, now let us find more of those missing or redundant conversions and post them!
- Leafmane’s Trophy
As maverick pointed out here, Elemental to Vitality conversion seems out of place here, while Aether to Vitality would actually be helpful, especially for those poor Vitality DE Apostates trying to make it in this power crept world.
- Korvan Eldritch Halberd
Another item with the identity crisis. Mighty mod for Smite but then what are you gonna do, equip Bilesoaked Spear into second hand to enable Ssmash too? Physical to Acid conversions is as useless as ever on that Smite. Something like Cold or/and Chaos to RF (not one wps but a whole RF) would be much more useful.
- Occulant
A pet peeve of mine. Feedbacked it in the previous patch and was completely ignored.
This Acid to Physical conversion is redundant here. Moreover it ruins it for the niche case shield uses like for Vitality or even Pierce. Maybe in the time when I feedbacked it Zantai was concerned that it would make Vitality snb too powerful? Either way given the state of the current powercreep it should not be a concern now.
Yeah, these missing conversions definitely stand out. The Bilesoaked Spear in particular feels like it should support Shattering Smash more cleanly without forcing global conversion.
I think that Wildblood set is definitely outdated. Its damage has already been not really competitive in pre-FoA. But it needs more than conversions, I think it needs a total facelift, possibly with more wd to Vines, but that’s the topic for another thread.
I agree here. This Elemental to Vitality conversion seems gimmicky, not sure what it’s for there.
Yeah, this one of the few items that give really meaningful extra arc to Smite and yet where do you even go with a 2h melee Oathbreaker with only one wps unlocked. I feel like this and Bilesoaked Spear could be combined, because you would need both of Oathkeeper’s wps to make 2h Acid melee work. And yes this Physical to Acid conversion is absolutely redundant. Could be something like 100% Cold to Acid so you can combine it with Necromancer maybe (but rather add it to RF not to one wps).
I agree that conversions would not hurt but I feel like it’s also for a different thread. I think we should gather rather obvious missing/redundant conversions here while stuff like buffing Wildblood or Ultos deserves their own discussions.
Groble Void Effigy needs physical to vitality conversion on the item as well. It’s already a meme item with next to no item support for vit canister bomb on top of lacking the conversion for the DoT on improved casing.
iirc, “the good” cold prm" setup (nofika, pre-foa) ended up with exactly 0 global cold conversion simply because it wasn’t worth to chase when i asked(i tried chasing conversion). PRM items blocking too many slots to make it possible, which meant Proliferation was totally untouched besides the native cold from frag’s ele portion Mage Hunter, Level 100 (GD 1.2.1.3) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator- dmg breakdown OCD intensifies
neither does direct conversion - it’s a separate FX modifier added to the table under the hood (likewise why some skill FX changes on items that don’t actually have conversion)
*edit, i haven’t checked out Bile spear so don’t know if it got old upheaval style modifiers added under the hood to proper convert, but other smash stuff didn’t before atleast iirc
edit edit. dmg is full converted either way, but flat RR is still not ofc
yes? as i mentioned we have items that convert FX without actually having conversion, because it’s a separate table entry/fx swaps isn’t conveyed in regular tooltip data . They are just thematic fitting instead (cold item converting mines to blue fx etc)
*iirc this was one of them Harra's Ward - Legendary Amulet - Grim Dawn Item Database , there was a medal too somewhere doing something for some skill i think (actually had a conflict with one of the skill tree transmuter because of it at the time)
compared to chillflame evoker there is still communication that would be missing on the eldritch spear, since there is no mention of acid dmg on smite modifiers whatsoever
As I suggested during the PTR, please make the conversion of Cord of Violent Decay 100%. If %retaliation is added, it will also be useful for niche aether retaliation.
Cold Primal Strike conduit needs a change in global conversion on its prefix from physical to cold to lightning to cold, so that full global lightning to cold conversion is possible. Torrent as a secondary skill would like that conversion. And also builds like this would need it for Onslaught.
All the other conduits need to be looked at also. If they modify a skill that has a secondary skill then its global conversion needs to be useful for that secondary skill. Aether PS conduit is another such conduit that needs a change in its global conversion. I am sure there will be more as well.
). PRM items blocking too many slots to make it possible, which meant Proliferation was totally untouched besides the native cold from frag’s ele portion 
- it’s a separate FX modifier added to the table under the hood (likewise why some skill FX changes on items that don’t actually have conversion)