Modding Related Change Coming in 1.0.0.5

[okami29]

edit I will keep adding more to this post.

I’ve compiled a list of highly desired features from modders I know, as well as features I’d like. I understand you guys are short on time and unlikely to make any of these changes but I’m putting them out there just to have them there. I know y’all are extremely busy (Man, just editing items is extremely time consuming, I can’t imagine how hard the art side must be. I’ll figure out how to make the PSeditor work one day.)

I’m sure you’ve already gotten some of them, I apologize for any redundancy.

Ahem Please:

• let conversions be recognized as an array so a transmutor can offer different conversions based on rank.
• Make bleed a conversion type (allow things to convert to it and allow it to convert to others? Make it an extension of pierce if you have to.
• Make it so devotion nodes can give item procs, like 5% chance on hit to cast fireball.
• Making skilltrees in the player dbr an array
• Add possibility to grant skill per lua / quest (preferable lua)
• Add possibility to check whether player has skill x or to loop through the player’s skill list and do things like tempremove (for arcade-like maps/game modes and for disabling skills temporary), remove, add, change skilllevel
• Allow lua Tempremove all items from player / certain items only
• Make transformation skills possible
• Make invisibility skills possible
• Possibility to enable knockdown on player via lua command and skills (-> possibility to make traps that will make the player fall and accidentially discover hidden cellars etc)
• Tempremove, remove and add attribute points / attribute values directly (also for arcade-like mods)
• Add possibility to play video via lua script like the intro
• Add possibility to add more ui stuff like a list that can be updated (for example for pvp arenas so people can keep track on their progress etc)
• Add “chance of conversion”.
• Allow items to grant bonuses to more than just 2 skills.
• Allow us to use mod tools to set the interval between waves on volcano skill (Magi constellation) and Devastation like skills. Intervals in general are nice.
• For that matter, allow us to set an interval range. So the delay between waves can be more sporadic. i.e. a 0.2-0.4 second interval. This will allow stuff like volcano projectiles and meteors to be tuned to feel more natural.
• Let anything with “projectiles” have “minprojectiles” and “maxprojectiles”… so like, a skill could cast 1-3 fireballs instead of always the same amount. This may seem clunky but it has a lot of uses, it’ll be good for item procs, and while no player wants a skill that’s 1-3 generally, if you balance it around having many projectiles, the higher the range, the less a small projectile difference will change the dps. i.e. the difference between 1 and 3 projectiles is huge but the difference between 23 and 25 projectiles is not.

Also using the SetCoords() function with numbers, allowing us to spawn things where we want.For now we can only place objects where there is an already existing entity (in the main campaign).
It’s just a “wishlist”.

[system]

I guess without that method, the number of active modders will fall.
I have a lot of fun creating new mods and test them together with all other Players. In my opinion that game Change would ruin all game fun.

For me 100% of fun in GD would be lost. Unfortunattely all game Content is exactly the same in all 3 difficulties. In TQ we had new Special Monsters like “Hydra” which only spawned at higher dificulties.

This modding method was and still is a great Chance to make the game more interesting for everybody.

so Im honest. When this game Change will appear, I dont see a reason to continue playing further than to normal difficulty.

so RIP modding, RIP game fun, RIP Grim Dawn

bb game :(

[system]

I have a Little idea to fix that Problem.

you could separate the Servers, just like hardcore and normal gaming.

if you use modded game files (mod) you are not able to join Servers of People who dont have modded game files and non modded People are not able to join in Servers of modded guys.

that would work with hosted Servers as well, just as the same.

I think with that idea everybody would be okay, modders and normal playing People. But I think to bann modding completely just because of “bad behaviour” of some Players is just overreacted.

[PrincessLuna]

I wonder why you were spending your time to ‘fix’ it. Fixing this will only make things worse, and some mods will not be able to work because they were using this feature as the core thing. You do not have dedicated servers, and anyway this bug hardly works from the clientside when you are connecting to someone else without the mod. It wont be working or will result in your crash, host will be just fine.

[powbam]

I wonder why you were spending your time to ‘fix’ it. Fixing this will only make things worse, and some mods will not be able to work because they were using this feature as the core thing. You do not have dedicated servers, and anyway this bug hardly works from the clientside when you are connecting to someone else without the mod. It wont be working or will result in your crash, host will be just fine.

This seems to be difficult to absorb, so I’m going to be plain…this loophole has created a legitimate issue for us when implementing Crucible Mode that caused its data to be loaded in the Main Campaign (much like your mods are). On top of that, it is also an exploit (one of several) that can hurt legitimate players.

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[mamba]

I guess without that method, the number of active modders will fall.

which mods actually make use of this ?

I am not aware that any do, but then I don’t know all mods or their details, but assuming that pretty much nothing is, why would it make any difference ?

[powbam]

which mods actually make use of this ?

I am not aware that any do, but then I don’t know all mods or their details, but assuming that pretty much nothing is, why would it make any difference ?

There are or were a few. I think even DAIL had a version that did. Honestly I didn’t like ones that used this method.

I prefer them to keep their mitts out of the main game.

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[hotdog666]

One man, from our russian community say me:
“Man connected to my server, said ‘do you want legendary items?’ I went to a trade stash, and he explode my hardcore hero”

[Davood]

One man, from our russian community say me:
“Man connected to my server, said ‘do you want legendary items?’ I went to a trade stash, and he explode my hardcore hero”

seems like “That” problem won’t be fixed by this change. will it?

[hotdog666]

seems like “That” problem won’t be fixed by this change. will it?

Idk, its hack or just bug like “killing aura” in one skill, anyway man was hit on own server and not on someone else, as I stressed in the message

[ASYLUM101]

Idk, its hack or just bug like “killing aura” in one skill, anyway man was hit on own server and not on someone else, as I stressed in the message

if it’s a hack or bug abuse, as davood said regarding the aura bug, then this change probably won’t affect that unfortunately.