Modern Crucible speed standards

[Sotnik]

Hi!

Has Crucible become harder nowadays? What speed is considered a good one? There were some very fast crucible farmers in December (can’t remember their timing). Has anything changed?

[Nery]

I think Crucible is little harder comparing to pre FG.Some waves are just screwed like 169 new opponent,163 healers,sometimes fumblers alongside council,154 more dangerous bosses to spawn with Kuba.Also Kaisan is far dangerous than Benni:D.I heard Superfluff Belgo did in 5.35 which is amazing speed,but fast builds/players aim for 6 minutes usually.I think most of the best clearers pre FG are not that good now.

[malawiglenn]

Also the FG release have put some new heroes on the map that are most likely to turn the meta around and introduce new buffs & nerfs

[mad_lee]

I think anything below 8 minute mark is great if build can do it consistently (I am talking about golden standard of 3 blessings + 1 Vanguard banner).

At the moment builds balance is broken and Warlords/EoR Archons/Retaliation builds exist in whole different dimension, so hard to talk about real “speed standards” untill that shit is getting fixed.

[sir_spanksalot]

I mean, some DoT kiters can clear it naked in 8 minutes (john_smith’s shieldbreaker), or 9 minutes (mortar shieldbreaker) - but you need to be a good pilot to do that.

But honestly, I think it was established that if you can clear cruci in under 12 minutes using 4 buffs, you get pretty good returns for tributes invested.

[Nery]

I mean, some DoT kiters can clear it naked in 8 minutes (john_smith’s shieldbreaker), or 9 minutes (mortar shieldbreaker) - but you need to be a good pilot to do that.

But honestly, I think it was established that if you can clear cruci in under 12 minutes using 4 buffs, you get pretty good returns for tributes invested.

My goal is that as minimum and if the build is capable,3 runs.My 4pieces iskandra dual wield melee beronath fury Mage hunter was able to do under 12 mins so it was good build:D,now probably is not.

[Sotnik]

(I am talking about golden standard of 3 blessings + 1 Vanguard banner).

But honestly, I think it was established that if you can clear cruci in under 12 minutes using 4 buffs, you get pretty good returns for tributes invested.

Oh! I believed the standard was 2 blessings 0 banners
Well, looks like I was trying too hard to look cool)))

[iFormus]

Imo 149 and 169 are the new hardest waves. There are also many new opponents who cast the motherf* volcano which can shotgun you down in literal one second. I got 30k single hit IN THE STORY MODE on my (fluff) belgo infiltrator who has 50phys res, 2.7k armor with 100% absorb and all other resistances maxed and more or less overcapped and i don’t even know who delivered it. The standard however is still <10 min and faster with 3xbuff 1xbanner so you can finish 2x 150-170.

[mad_lee]

Oh! I believed the standard was 2 blessings 0 banners
Well, looks like I was trying too hard to look cool)))

3 blessings 1 banner and 3 runs is the optimal tribute investment/return/farming efficiency ratio. Unless you can ofcourse farm it 4 times in 25 minutes, but very very few builds can do it consistently at the moment and most of them are broken/certainly getting nerfed.