Need help with Cadence mechanics

I am building a Blademaster. My main damage is Physical Cadence. I have a question on WPS.

How many WPS should I have before I start to reduce damage on my Cadence?

these are the following WPS:

Markovian’s Advantage (MA)
Zolhan’s Technique (ZT)
Belgothian’s Shears (BS)
Amarasta Quick Cut (AQC)
Whirling Death (WD)
Execution

What is worth putting in? Does putting all of them in help increase my damage?

What is the best way to offset the AOE damage for a Cadence build? Since Ring of Steel does Pierce I don’t want to put much point in it. But I really don’t understand the mechanics of the game to confidently say getting BS, ZT and WD would not affect my DPS.

I need help

MA, BS, WD and Execution are good with Cadence. AQC and ZT are bad with Cadence.
During leveling you need to max Cadence first, then Deadly Momentum and then WPS skills if you have enough points, but do not treat WPS skills as priority ones.

If you need AoE, you need RoS anyway. On low levels RoS is acceptable, on high levels max Fighting Form to hit 3 targets with Cadence. And get Doom relic, its proc is very powerful source of AoE.

Any DW wps works great with cadence. Including guns.

So MA/ZT only for DW guns cadence.

But guns are weird anyway with cadence

ZT is good when used with guns. 400% WD per WPS
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR4yk92

Why is AQC bad with Cadence? I tested a few WPS setups with Cadence on the dummy (not very thoroughly, just a few dozen cadence hits per setup) and I’ve noticed that AQC might actually be best for Cadence. It seemed to have some minor impact on the frequency of double charging and sometimes (very rarely) allowed for two consecutive Cadence hits with no charging.

I’m not trying to undermine your statement. I just wanna share what I’ve seen and ask why you said AQC is bad

I was also wondering this. Besides Cadence interaction as Ya mentions, I recall it being said that the bonus crit makes it alright. Also isn’t BS supposed to be bad unless you have belgothian’s, in which case you wouldn’t be using Cadence? As I understand it BS is supposed to have the worst animation with a low number of hits…

Sure.
I just tested one of my chars on a dummy with and without AQC and found no difference in kill times. That’s why I think AQC is a waste of points.

But it hits 3 targets with both blades.
ZT is inferior to BS because it hits 3 targets with only main hand weapon and its animation is slow AF.

Yes, if you have the skill points it’s good, what i said:p

But DW guns cadence is weird. Sometimes you don’t get a Cadence charge at all every few cadence procs, resulting in 3 hit cadence proc instead of 2 hit.

I agree. AQC is maybe the weakest of nightblade’s WPS. I used to stand by it in one of my Belgo setups (similar to original Fluff’s) because it was best for proccing Oleron against single enemies but I dropped it for WB.

I don’t know how you tested that dummy but in my experience AQC not really worth it unless you get full 8/8 or more. Basically, which WPS are best depends on the jewelry. If you use Belgothian’s Sigil+Blackwatch, BS+WB is better because they’re cheaper. But if you have some green jewelry of Amarasta’s Flurry AQC might be better after all