On mobile atm, so I can’t comment on your specific setup. Regardless, generally the Lightning standards are Tempest and sometimes Widow. 2Hs, Kraken always. Other than that, be as offensive or defensive as you like. I might suggest considering Chariot or Ghoul, rather than trying to stretch to Behemoth. Turtle is handy as well. The Devotions have a fair variety of healing/shielding procs scattered about it, so you’ve got options. Also, I wouldn’t generally grab Spear unless you’re doing something with that Aether, simply because you end up spending a lot of points to reach it and the skill. I’d just take Tempest and more generally good constellations, rather than push for Spear, myself.
Drop the Falcon for Behemoth? Its weapon damage is quite low, so it’s more useful on physical or bleed build. And yeah, might be more useful to take tempest instead of spear, unless you really want that +5% OA node, though as warder you have 2 flat and 1 percentage OA boost.
One more thing you should add is elemental storm, since you don’t use wind devils for RR. And if you go for elemental storm, it’s a good idea to pick up chariot.
So something like this: http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-Gz87oM with your choice what to drop in chaos or primordial affinity. You’ve got a surplus in chaos, primordial, order, so you may drop some points in ulo, tempest node, lizard or jackal. Also hawk is interchangeable with scholar’s light and owl can be replaced with empty throne, depending on what you want.
The problem with tempest is that I’m not seeing myself hitting crit at all, my highest crit chance is on trash mob and it was about 6.7%, on boss it’s a big 0%, so I can never use its celestial power
If you go 2-h lightning build, you’ll receive massive crit damage bonus from Stormcaller’s Pact, so you have to stack OA (that increases crit chance) to make use of it. In addition to that, Upheaval procs on crit, making high OA actually a must-have.
Now, your mistakes in the build:
You play with Savagery, but you dont invest into WPS skills (MA not even learned, ZT/FH/Upheaval). You MUST max out all those WPS skills (except MA, maybe), only then Savagery will be worth it. Consider rare “Tempest” prefix on rare gear, it adds OA and lightning damage, very good for this build.
You need massive conversion from physical to lightning to make this work. You should use a weapon with no less than 33% convert to lightning, with component for extra 10%, Amulet - Iskandra’s Fucing Prism or Ultos’ Gem…
I dont think Spear is worth it, you need to much useless Primordial affinity, and constelattion itself isnt amazing if you dont use both lightling and aether.
I would still love to squeeze one point somewhere to put in chariot for the 16% vitality resistance though. I’m not sure that is better than 30% chance for 200% lightning damage from tempest.
I have +3 skills so I don’t think investing more points worth it, I have other procs from weapons and components as well. I can put 1 point into MA just for the + skills to work.
Going through my stash I actually have a tempest glove, but I’m not sure that it is better than my current one
You still dont understand, right?
Ok, i’ll explain.
Zolhan’s Technique ay 12 level has 25% chance to trigger, 175% Weapon Damage multiplier and hits 3 targets. Without other skills, your level 16 Savagery deals 200% weapon damage. With ZT 12 lvl, it has 25% chance to deal 200*1.75=350% weapon damage to 3 targets, or 237% weapon damage in average (and far more VS several enemies), its 18.5% more damage. Feral Hunger and Upheaval also work this way. They may be not so good VS single target, but in GD, you often fight VS several enemies, and those skills add a VERY significant amount of AoE damage.
If you dont want to use max out those skils, why you chosen Savagery at all? Use Primal Strike or Cadence, and be happy!
Savagery wont be effective without 12/12 ZT, FH and Upheaval.
And lightning warder using Savagery wont be effective without high OA amounts (2300+ for Ultimate). I should say, that lightning warder is very gear-dependant class, that shines only with proper legendaries (namely, Ultos set), relics (Eye of the Storm) and rares…
You probably chosen wrong class to play a first time. I’d rather adviced using physical damage for savagery first, it’s less gear-dependant and crit-dependant and more tanky.
Well, when I reach ultimate I will consider that, I am still level 60, and right now on elite it takes me 2 hits to kill trash mobs, getting 18.5% more damage won’t bring that down to 1 hit, thus no time saved.
Also considering that I won’t have those top gears in probably a long time, I would rather spend more points on defensive skills to survive
I’m not sure what is wrong with that grimcalc sheet, but for 50 points I do finish:
As for the devotion trees in those threads you gave, I don’t like the fact that I need to spend points on some stars that does not contribute to my build (like fire damage in scholar fire, or aether in wraith), and my tree suits my play style a lot
The main benefit of those WPS is ability to hit several mobs at once, all with VERY high damage against single target. Hitting enemies one by one isnt the fastest way of killing them.
Primal Strike gives you even better AoE damage, with less point investment, but it’s far weaker against single target, sadly.
And even 18% more damage for ~10 ability points is well-worth it.
Now, about your devotions. You must get either Rhowan’s Crown or Manticore. They provide massive resistance reduction and are well-worth your points. Rhowan’s Crown also provides very good stats.
According to that, Widow, Crown and Manticore are best resistance reductions, then viper. If I have Crown and Widow maxed, I will reduce 66% flat resistance on enemy, and if that bring resistance to negative, viper kicks in for the damage empower.
But I keep reading in various sources saying that Crown and Widow do not stack, while that thread says they do
They ALL are mandatory. Manticore and crown dont stack, though. You may also max out Wind Devil’s uprade to get the same effect as Crown, but you’ll waste many skillpoints, and your build already lacks them.
Viper also provides good stats, same for Widow and Crown.
They do stack, i assure you. You can even test that on dummy, sure you’ll notice ~30% increase in damage dealt.
