Nightbringer is hard to use for Occultist

The weapon is vitality. It has %acid damage but it converts up to 60% acid to vitality so you can’t use it for acid. However vitality faces the issue of converting acid fully. The weapon blocks mods that convert DEE or Bloody Pox to vitality. So if you equip it with Dark One or Rotgheist Conjurer, you won’t be able to convert the acid fully. You’ll run into this issue with other combinations, including custom solutions, with Occultist, because acid to vitality is so rare.

Can we get 100% acid to vitality on the weapon, maybe? Or if it’s too much for one item, maybe 20-30% acid to vitality to some ring or gloves? Deathlord’s and Lifegiver are still kinda underwhelming for vitality even after the buffs and can’t really compete with other vitality rings, maybe they can be a good fit for this conversion?

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It used to be decent for vitality conjurer back on release when it had crazy phys res, but tbh even then it just felt like any other dark one conjurer. It feels like the weapon has an identity crisis since day 1. Ideally it should be a cool 2h caster “staff” weapon that somewhat feels different enough to classic 1h+offhand casters, but it kinda fails at that. The vitality wind devil part is cool and unique but (afaik still) underwhelming. It could be a great weapon to give full conversion to DEE with %Weapon damage and projectiles spinning around the char (like a certain community league item, but we know that will probably sadly never happen). I don’t see any other way to make this item feel truly unique for Occultist tbh. For shaman it’s already good (conceptually) imo, but it could be so much more, maybe some nightblade or berserker support?

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Many problems could be solved by making wind devils a viable main damage skill, maybe give them a finite duration but giga %TDM on nightbringer

i vote d2 frozen orb style dee but yeah, the wind devil mod doesn’t exactly make it an interesting weapon. never farmed it because i never theorycrafted a build i really wanted to try this out with.

people thinking it would be an awesome DEE weapon might want to check mi0s mechanic post on that front :woozy_face: