Non pet bleeding conjurer?

[deen]

Hey,so I was thinking about making a bleed build as Conjurer,maybe with gutsmasher or some 1h+shield/offhand

I am wondering however,do the different bleeds from skils like bloody pox/devouring swarm/vines/savagery and normal melee hits stack?

[Gnomish_Inquisition]

Grim Dawn DoTs for Dummies: A Primer

Hello everyone! I wanted to try and give back to the community by compiling all my knowledge I’ve learned about DoTs from playing/lurking the forums. There are three sections, and I’ve wrapped each in spoiler tags to avoid giant walls of text. I hope you enjoy!

Types of DoTs

Each damage type has a damage over time affect associated with it (except for a special case), and the resistance that affects a damage type also affects it’s corresponding damage over time effect. Here are the list of D…

gist of it is, same source (true) DoT don’t stack, (weapon dmg/%WD all counts as same source), can plop as many bleeds from diff sources on to a baddie you want

[deen]

Gr8 thanks for the clarification

[thepowerofmediocrity]

The guide listed in the forums is outdated, as we discovered that if a skill has multiple of the same entity, such as Blade Spirits or Wind Devils, the DoTs applied by them DO stack, and that has been the focus of multiple builds.

I would read through @Evil_Baka’s Pseudo-Pet Vitality Storm Totem Build guide and try to apply it for your build. If I recall, Grasping Vines does have multiple entities, meaning Grasping Vine’s bleeding damage would stack the more of them you have, but I haven’t heard of anyone really using a Bleeding Grasping Vines build to good effect.

Though since we’re talking Conjurer, the class is much more suited to attacking since neither class has any source of Cast Speed, so I would focus on going Gutsmasher Savagery, since it would be much easier to level with using Melee with Troll Bonecrusher than trying to combine some Bloody Pox + Grasping Vines monstrosity.

[Gnomish_Inquisition]

@thepowerofmediocrity

such as Blade Spirits or Wind Devils, the DoTs applied by them DO stack, and that has been the focus of multiple builds.

that’s because they are considered separate sources/individual pets
same reason devo procs dots stack on pets i believe

@thepowerofmediocrity

Grasping Vines does have multiple entities

grasping vines doesn’t stack bleed i think(seems that way from GI readouts), but the flat phys does - same as how the burn on BWC doesn’t stack on spam, but the flat fire and chaos does

[tqFan]

Yeah Grasping Vines just like Sigil is not a pet.