Just wondering what people opinions are with candace and discord. I haven’t seen many builds using it so was wondering why.
Discord converts cadence to elemental
Elemental as a whole has shit support in the game and arguably the worst tier-3 devotion
If you want to go then optimal way is to pick witchblade for resistance reduction, going Battlemage is noob trap
Worst tier-3 devotion? Could you enlighten me please. What’s considered good tier-3 devotions? Seeing a lot of people go bleed. Is this why?
I guess I’m still a noob. I was looking at battlemage because I wanted something different to witchblade.
Tried it, I don’t think it’s that good compared to single element, or double at most.
There just aren’t good enough items for this type of build.
It does have one advantage though: because it converts 100% to elemental through a skill, no damage is lost due to Piercing or Vit conversion (from swords/axes or Haunted Steel, etc.)
Anyway, you can make a decent build around this but it wouldn’t be great compared to a top tier build.
Another reason why Ele sucks besides its inherent weaknesses is because Blind Sage is horrible even after the buff.
Tier 3 constellation that gives no significant OA (like Torch or Spear) nor does it give defense (like Levi).
It requires 4 points to get the 180% damage when the single element clusters only require 2.
Granted you get a good chunk of DoT damage and some resists for those 4 points too, but it’s just not enticing to me.
And the skill itself was horrible last time I used it, I doubt it’s been buffed much since then.
-I’ve tried all the other tier-3 devotions. All of them are good except Light of Empyrion which only shines in one build. Blind sage is a joke of a constellation. It’s like trying to beat the game with a stick
-Nothing to do with bleed
-Battlemage is decent but not optimal in this case
I arrived here searching for info on discord and how it affects piercing. I wondered if with a weapon that does piercing damage would you still get the piercing damage.
Another way to word my question is that if you used discord transmuter could you make a pierce + element build? (instead of pierce/physical build). The question is not what is relatively competitive as a build but rather does the mechanics of discord take away the piercing damage when cadence fires?
Weapons with armor piercing lose that once 100% of the damage converts to elemental.
Thanks and yes that is what I was curious about!
Also the conversion only applies when Cadence goes off (every third hit) and most of Cadence’s damage comes from the flat modifier on Deadly Momentum (which applies to all three).
Why do you have to take Blind Sage just because you are going Elemental Damage? An Elemental build can just as easily take Ulzuin’s Torch or Leviathan. Devotion’s don’t have to all go towards just Elemental Damage only.
Of course, but lets say you did, you would be solely disappointed with the performance of the sage compared to others. You certainly aren’t forced to take it, its just a waste of space as it is.
Now about discord: I have been trying to level an elemental cadence build and it is incredibly painful, as is leveling all cadence battlemages are. It really is a noob trap as it was my first build back in EA and it bored me then as well. Any unique or hero worth their star and suffix will have high elemental resists, which isn’t to say you cant do well with a PRM build, but PRM builds do it better for less risk (melee) even with a shield. No real reason to level a battlemage with cadence unless you like watching paint dry. Warpfire is a nice tease but getting the poor guy to a level you can use at it is painful.
i’ve always liked candace. she’s hot stuff
Only thing that I see as an issue of going discord/elemental cadence is pore itemization and not so well rr options.
Exactly.
I have also recently had the idea to make a build using discord, but figuring efficiency I put this build on the back burner, at least until the Inquisitor will be in the game