Pick them, no reason
Just joking
I might go order as with my bm and gunslinger i went kymon.
Feel free to do whatever. I never use their augments on any build. So factions never meant much to me story-wise
This looks awesome.
If possible could you post a GrimCalc without the bonuses from the items? This would really make things easier for understanding how to distribute my skill points.
Thank you for taking the time to put this great guide together for new players like me.
Since this is a much more newbie friendly build than my other ones i added a new GrimCalc for players w/o BiS gear.
Making a similar build, but with poison. 
But man forcewave is such a dull skill imo.
I know what you mean by Poison wave
The conversion is a little low. I got to a maximum of 50% (less than this actually) so didnāt feel worthwhile to me
I know what you mean by FW being dull, but physical wave was pretty cool to play with
The hardest to play FW build i made was Bleeding based Forcewave. I intentionally ran into a reflect mob. And the Internal Trauma reflection was gg
I love forcewave as i love the way it sends monsters flying all over screen, even the biggest obes
My archetype of a barb but i also like my gunslinger pyro although he is not sending monsters sky high 
@ Chthon - i need to check out this no-bis updated grim calc when at home.
Let me know how helpful it is
@Chthon: I checked it out, your grim calc for newbs - Oleron - I just do not know how I could have missed it 
I like the idea of how u tie skills with devotions.
Btw, this is what I look like now, at clvl 44 (I am taking my time and grind a lot of exp in Vet just to be on the safe side when in later dificulties, besides this guy clears out mobs at an amazing pace!) at beginning act 4, Veteran:
http://grimcalc.com/build/1008-o0eqNC
Could you suggest where next as I have no idea and still have 12ish skill points unspent along with 3 devotion points - maybe its time to pick up Demo but it is fun to watch how far pure Soldier can take me
Dmg output is ok, with 13oo+ OA but somewhat lower DA of 1ooo+. I can see survivability can be an isue at times, esp. when surrounded by mobs higher level then I.
Primary res 75 - 80, secondary 30 - 40.
I got Kraken but I will be somehow trying to respecc into Oleron.
I also farmed 6 green obsidian cleavers with my Pyro but only one meets physical FW criteria (see attatched .jpg). It is clvl 55 and I also have Stonefist Rebuke with clvl 50 requirement and Stonefist seems to beat this cleaver handsdown - what doyou think?
Aā¦one mre thingā¦Demo vs Occultist - how would rate the two as second mastery for physical FW?
I feel Demo for me would be slightly better as I already aquired a taste for FB and its cc ability which Occultists lacks. I feel sometimes I could really use some ccā¦
Besides rr can be from devotions and Demo has, as you pointed out, flat physical dmg from Temper. I stack +% physical dmg but then there is little (in my case) flat phys dmg so really this % has nothing to work offā¦
I was going to say go for the cleaver but i noticed you have Rebuke. Rebuke wins hands down in this case.
That skill is a pretty OP addition to the hotbar if you donāt mind an extra click for nuking bosses
It seems like that itās time for you to get some ADCtH - Get Restless Remains in your hand slot and farm Guardian of Solael for some pants that give you ADCtH.
I wouldnāt recommend Haunted Steel since the item is garbage for physical builds
For your current profile, i recommend taking Demolitionist and maxing Flashbang
Devotion wise youāre fine with Kraken since you are low level and should go for Chariot now for the final skill and OA
Demo is better for new players, I wouldnāt recommend Occultist right off the bat
Well, its my 3rd toon and this is the 1st time I hear about Guardian of Soael - already googled and wip 
I got restless remains and Demo, 7/7 in flashbang.
Finally - I hit clvl 50 and equip the Rebuke
Now a question - maybe I shall drop Falcon Swoop and get assassin mark on FW instead?
Chariot is for the Wayward only? as I can get it putting only 2 pts into constellation?
And I need some more purple affinity - what would be better - Throne for defence or Hammer for offence? Either one will give me the affinity required for Chariot.
Eh, iāde stick with Falcon Swoop or something else that has a low recharge time on Forcewave. Assassinās Mark at max level has a duration of 15 seconds, no need to reapply it every few seconds.
Stick with Swoop, Chariot gives you OA and the heal skill.
How well can you handle SharāZul with this build? Iāve been doing a few BoC runs and heās giving me a headache, heās manageable but takes a ton of kiting, mainly when he enrages.
Enraged SharāZul is scary but yeah I can do him.
Thing is watch out for that Burn DoT. The DoT alone isnāt bad but if swipes his axe when you have a DoT on you itās a real what the fuck moment for most builds.
If a boss is giving you too much trouble then switch Swoop to Forcewave and unhook Assassin Mark all together (unless you want it on Blitz, if thatās the case then flashbang the target and then Blitz them for max crit chance) for that specific fight. Swoop hits like a fire truck for 2h builds
Iām trying this build also since it allowed me to reach level 49. Something my previous sorcerers didnāt allow me anymore since the last two versions.
Iām experiencing something annoying though about force wave. Itās interrupting blitz each time my mouse point at a mobile. Something I must do to actually activate the skill. So my character moves one or two steps then stops casts forcewave and I find blitz didnāt do any damage but is on cool down.
Did you experience the same? How do you workaround that annoying behavior?
Plus I find it difficult to almost impossible to destroy hero caches with forcewave.
If I put aside these two game play flaws the build feels strong and is enjoyable to play.
Cheers,
L.
I did not notice anything ike u describe but otoh I used Blitz only very springly and respecced of it nowā¦although it does bring back good TQIT memoriesā¦phantom strike with 0 cooldownā¦
I played untill clvl 50 on Veteran and bosses were a pain, nad champs esp. when appearing in packs of three
I would always use against Bosses / Champs kiting and some skills from socketables or items, like Slam from chipped claw, oleron might from oleron blood.
Now I have Rebuke from Stonefist Rebuke and Oleron might from Blood. So the sequence is like this: Rebuke, Oleron, FWā¦when preceeded by war cry and maybe flashbang now bosses do not last long 
but still Im only mid epic.
EDIT: I have clvl 82 DW Pierce BM, clvl 60 Gunslinger pyro and this 2H Physical forcewave dude and he is the best tank / the quickest killer of the threeā¦
And something bad hapened to my BM as I can remember playing her a half a year back or so and it was dead easy on Legendary and now it is not
So basically what you mean is FW interrupts Blitz in certain situations?
I guess itās possible, but never encountered the issue, i guess it goes away after you get more familiar with it.
Sorry canāt help, if youāre a little more specific then iāll try to replicate the problem on my end to provide advice
Hero caches?