[QOL] Semitransparent Map

system · July 28, 2016, 3:24pm

you know Im playing the game for a while and when exploring the area im using the map frequently so i thought if map get transparent and you can have map screen while you are plying its quite Awesome it would be great if you consider to add it to future update.
sorry for poor english :o.

medea_fleecestealer · July 28, 2016, 4:05pm

Has been suggested several times and so far hasn’t happened. Personally I hated it in D2 and wouldn’t want to have it that way. As an option maybe for people who do want it, but not as the only map as D2 had it. Ugh!

system · July 30, 2016, 6:39am

but it could be an option for those want a better Experience with exploring the area while they are looking for the way they want go:D

medea_fleecestealer · July 30, 2016, 8:45am

Which is what I said. I think if the devs wanted it though, it would have been added by now.

eisprinzessin · July 30, 2016, 8:56am

Feedback from Crate, why it has not been implemented:

medierra:

The decision to not have a translucent overlay like D2 was actually a deliberate one. It was influenced by my own experience playing D2. There was a point where I realized I wasn’t really having that much fun anymore with D2 and I started to wonder why that was - was I just getting sick of the game finally? Eventually it dawned on me that I wasn’t having that much fun because I wasn’t even really paying attention to the game. I would just constantly focus on the mini-map and not even really look at what was going on during combat. I found that when I turned the map off or at least minimized it I started having a lot more fun again.

I think there is a struggle with games between efficiency and fun / immersion. I feel that being able to play effectively with a large version of the map over the screen comes at the expense of fun.

You might say - why not leave that up to the player? Well, the problem is that most players, when they find themselves in a situation like I did in my experience with the D2 auto-map, won’t stop and wonder why the game got less fun, they’ll just stop playing.

This is one of those really difficult issues where it is hard to know for certain what the right answer is but my gut instinct is that this would be bad.

system · July 30, 2016, 3:51pm

thank you that shined alot light on the topic:D

Home · September 4, 2016, 12:47pm

Hellu.

One thing that is really a bit annoying is that the map got a 100% opacity. Basically with the map open you cannot do anything.

I don’t like or use minimaps at the corner of the screen because… they are in the corner of the screen. That makes them useless for me. So I always use the big map to navigate.

It would be a really nice addition if the map only had outlines and icons on it and everything would be only semitransparent so you could still easily navigate with the map open. If that is too complicated, even a simple opacity slider for the already existing map would be more than welcomed.

eisprinzessin · September 4, 2016, 4:57pm

Merged threads - please see my prior post.

Home · September 4, 2016, 6:18pm

That argument is poor imo.

I mean yes, there might be people who have less fun if they manually activate transparent map and then don’t realize that it is the reason for it.

But the “protection” of those people comes with downside that all the players who would like to use it because the game plays better for them with it suffer.

Personally I really love when a game has a good map built in and in some games it is absolutely essential for me. In Grim Dawn too, I am using it all the time anyway. A transparent map would definitely be a QOL change for me and not a “fun decreasing” change.

However, maybe a compromise could be to make it like an official downloadable mod, so there would not be an option built into the game, but people who specifically search for it could install and use it?

Also on that immersion part:

I believe immersion only works for a short amount of time. What makes you playing games longer than that is the gameplay. Atleast that is how it works for me.