Hi everyone, I just want a bit of advice for my cold ice talons evoker.
So far I’m having a blast with the wereraven, the gameplay is quite fun, but I question the survivability of the build for hardcore endgame. I fear lacking dps for single targets or not having enough tankiness.
I looked, some items provide strong bonuses (health per second, cold damage for Ice talons…), but would it be sufficient ?
If some of you already reach a high level with this build, is it viable ?
Thanks !
Hi
Depend if you already have items or not
Evoker has defensive skills in Mirror, Null and Maven
HC is also about being experienced with the game, knowing what stuff can kill you and how to avoid that. No gear in the world will make Evoker “immortal” like a warder or similar. HC viable is not a general concept.
Thanks for your answer,
I’m experienced with the hardcore version of the game, but with more tankier builds, and indeed I know the Evoker will be more fragile.
I wanted to have the feedback from more advanced players if the build can keep up. I abandoned some builds in the past because every big fights was a struggle for survival, in comparison to other builds.
I fear that the evoker falls flat, especially for single target damages.
Ice talon has pretty low single target damage yes
sure its SC and work in progress but it not that “promising”
The number looks pretty nice to me ! ><
But it’s true that the difficulty of the game improved and there is the ascendance mode now.
If only winds of Asterkarn could target an area and not being around us…
I think that is ok, it is the slow speed of building up max radius that is my biggest issue with the skill - you stand still dealing no dmg or leech for 1.5 seconds unless you stand on boss head 
Flames of Ignaffar used to be like that but it has improved over the years
Oh snap, I didn’t notice the delay. It’s even worst that I though !
What’s your current build for this extension?
what extension?
The fangs of Asterkarn 
expansion? I posted the Grim Tools link
and build, you mean builds, I have 8 that I play now
Yes thanks for the link !
Expansion indeed, I wanted to know the build you enjoy the most currently.
@_@
3500 DA/300 more da than OA , on a high oa class even
i’m just looking at the GT trying to figure out where it’s all coming from and can’t spot it 
I have the same issue with this build for the OA : Warlord, Level 100 (GD 1.2.0.5) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator
Maybe a bug from grimtools ?
no you have Oleron(+pov, FC etc items), so explains the OA
i just dont’ see any similar huge sources in GIJWs gt for DA but does have crazy sources for OA(Ultos, IF, attack suffixes etc), yet DA ends up significantly higher with seemingly less “fat” sources
I have a similar build (the Octavius build), and even with Oleron rage I can’t reach 2900 OA.
sry, i don’t follow, “similar” or same ? - because with those exact items, those skill points and those devos, there is no reason an Octavius warlord shouldn’t be able to reach 3200 OA
you can get less, if you low roll some items, but you should be able to get pretty close to avg rolls GT displays
edit. Shoka, i just created the WL as you can see
no issue getting the OA, this is a 1x craft with no rerolls so “regular” avg rng’ish stat outcome
Thanks for checking ! Strange, I only miss the Spellscourge and I can’t rach this number. I will investigate, I least now I know it’s possible !
So, your question about the DA of the wereraven build remain.
same augments, skill allocation, cunning dump for attributes?
did you check if you super low rolled some items like Barbaros pants? (grimtools show stats based on avg rolls - ingame you can see roll ranges now with detailed item info/holding down CTRL so you can see how close you are to GT avg)
Yeah it is not by design, it just happened xD I guess amatoks pact + the off-hand bonus to DA when raven form + pants
It is still a WIP build, res overcaps are junk
