Raka'jax builds discussion

I know full well what Pet Attack is, I just don’t see the point of taking a dps loss and using 2 buttons to use a shitty skill that can be replaced by a 7 devotion point investment that takes 0 buttons. (throne + 3 nodes on crown, we already need green for widow and kraken)

There’s a reason why none of the high tier builds use pseudo-pets like this as anything but devotion triggers. At least thermite mines can’t wander off.

I actually just spent some time playing around with a GDstashed setup on a test toon and I have to agree with Ryzel. While I could get up to 55k Savagery dps, 160k PS crits and cap my resists, the weapon really felt like it was lacking some stats. I was able to handle everything the game threw at me but it didn’t feel the way a 4-piece Ultos + perfect MIs build should. I felt weaker than with some of my proper builds, that don’t have amazing greens for the most part.

The problem here is that Raka’jax lacks the focused stats needed to be competitive with the other options in some niche. The weapon looks perfect for an Electrocute build, except it has zero +Electrocute duration, and the only good sources of that in the whole game turn out to be Stormreaver and Heart of Ulzuin. Electrocute seems like it could compete with Internal Trauma for worst supported DoT :rolleyes:.

Now I want to make a hybrid caster build using Stormreaver :D. I feel like the save for my upcoming SJ Elementalist will undergo mitosis around level 50 or so, so that I can compare the two…

Silverbolt? Don’t you mean Valdun? Silverbolt is at best just a level tool to get a Valdun build going.

That’s funny because I distinctly remember JoV preferring Silverbolt in his Pierce BM build, and as far as I know it’s still the highest single target damage ranged build ever made.

EDIT: Chthon, we need a new “buff Primal Strike discussion” thread. That skill needs some love. 270% weapon damage for a 26/16 cooldown skill is too low, and the base damage isn’t too hot either.

Primal Strike is usually used with Transmuter, and then, it’s a mere 127% Weapon Damage skill that also deals ~400 lightning damage and ~400 physical damage as well. Skill ike this will suck if used for physical damage, but why does it have so high physical component?
So first problem - you cant convert all that physical damage into lightning, at best, you can convert 70%, while 30% of damage are actually lost.
Second problem, high energy cost, that would be OK if skill would be powerful (as AAR). But it isnt.
Third problem, Storm Surge doesnt provide %lightning damage increase, even though Primal Strike is primarily lightning skill.

In the past, Torrent added some damage bonus to main target, but now, it affects main target no longer, so single-target DPS really sucks. And learning both Primal Strike and Savagery takes just too much points.

In past, Primal Strike was very popular, but its popularity mostly came from perfetly designed Ultos Set, that was much stronger in that regards than any other class-specific set.

You say as if i go around making threads about skills that need…err…sighs :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Jokes aside, pretty sure the developers have no intention to add Torrent to Main damage since Zantai confirmed it that Torrent contributing to single target was a bug and now it is working as intended (basically the skill was designed to be never used and remain shit)

Here is an old thread btw-

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52278

Yes it is by me and yes it has a poll sigh

Chthon, you need a custom title by now. Lord of the Polls. Er, DYING Lord. XD

That’s an old poll. I don’t make them anymore :rolleyes:

Well now that everybody seems to agree about Raka’jax not being too hot (you can make a functional build but aside from the novelty of ranged savagery it’s nothing special), what about builds using Stormreaver ? It’s got the same +2 to all Shaman skills, but it comes with a large helping of flat electrocute, the only significant +electrocute duration in all of GD, and a nice active with very high base damage.

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2MAl12m

Try that bad boy out :smiley:

I have only one problem with this weapon. No attack speed at all…why?

Seems like Raka’jax is one of those legendaries that were added in B29 and never looked at again after (correct me if I’m wrong, I couldn’t be bothered to check through the grimtools changelog).

If it had attack speed or electrocute duration it could be good, but as it stands the results from my tests were quite mediocre. Of course tests in non-legit gear from a level 85 blank aren’t the best since they lack organic knowledge of the build, but I think I had about half of the DPS I’d expect from a fully decked out Savagery Elementalist. The dumb weapon restriction on brute force doesn’t help either. I understand the flavor side of it but it kills the potential for ranged Savagery. Low AS + huge base damage loss from ranged weapon = disappointment.

Because it would be too powerful to have such massive crit damage, massive OA, +2 to shaman skills AND attack speed…
Weapon itself is OK, just builds/skills that intended to use it, are overnerfed and/or arent supported by items/constellations properly.

Generally I think the issue with Raka’Jax is that it’s great for Primal Strike, and Primal Strike is not great. If Primal Strike gets fixed up, I suspect Raka’Jax will be fine.

Highly doubt giving it around 10% to 15% attack speed would make it broken, because god forbid a legendary actually being great. At the moment Raka’Jax is just okay. Dropping the ~4% Spirit for attack speed would make the weapon more appealing.

That’s pretty much my main issue with the weapon, it has no attack speed. That and the high pierce conversion ratio which is 38%.

Also yes, Primal Strike buff please.

Pierce conversion ratio doesnt matter, because physical>>lightning conversion goes first, and you DO want to use as much physical>>lightning conversion with this weapon as only possible (cause it’s lightning-based). Both physical and pierce damage wont be supported in lightning-based build, so % of pierce conversion doesnt matter.
Just buff Primal Strike to be an actually useful skill in Ultimate. Then, Rakajax will be useful as well.

Too powerful? It has lower damage than ultos storm seeker. The Crit damage brings it almost on par with ultos axe when it crits and does lower damage when it does not.You’d say it comes out kind of even if you use primal strike but storm seeker still performs/ fells better to me anyway.

I think this jax weapon is a remnant of what happened to Temporal arcblade and Northern Wyrm. Both of the latter have %AS now and so should Raka especially after nerfs to torrent and falcon.

Edit: As norzan said, buff primal strike. Savagery gets a bit boring to use at least primal strike is pretty to look at

Ultos Storm Seeker is melee weapon. You want ranged weapon to have the same damage as melee one? Why use melee weapon at all, then? Crit is a bit underpowered for non-DoT build in GD, btw, another reason why Rakajax isnt great.

#TheSadTruth

i also forgot to mention that Jax doesn’t benefit from brute force too. That also hurts.

Yes, ranged, by the time you shoot something with it all enemies are in melee range:D especially in crucible

Edit: “-Wind Devil’s second nodes sucks. The RR is a bad joke, elemental storm is much better” actually conjurer can afford second node WD. Can play more with devotions too due to that.

Attack speed won’t make the weapon overpowered. Jax could use some looking into. Ranged in general needs more love and i doubt Inquisitor is suddenly going to make ranged OP

And keeping up Raging Tempest through Wind Devil on single target is major PITA. Elemental Storm wins by a long shot unless the Raging Tempest RR lasts for more than a second

EDIT

Also, Malestrom node is vastly better than Raging Tempest

I never mind it lasting only a short time. TBH, I never find myself needing RR with a lightning build until I hit a boss/hero. I tend to kill everything around them first, for safety… So the Wind Devils end up focusing where I want them anyways, reapplying that RR. My playstyle just kinda naturally works well with Wind Devils, I guess.