Not gonna work. You are not invincible.
I took Fabius as an example because 3% seems really mindblowing. However, Aleksander already has 28% chance to hit you.
In grimtools monster database we can see that Aleksander, Kuba, Grava, Reaper - all have skills that shred your resists. And when they do it they start inflicting noticeable damage, I had to kite on wave 170 for a bit. And I’m pretty sure if I didn’t have maxed resists I could die.
So yeah, even this ridiculous amount of DA do not give immunity from several AoM nemesis. And most builds won’t achieve 6k DA, even 4,5k is super hard.
@Zhuguus have you check this thing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-m5zW6f5EM
Seems unreasonably powerful to me. Shit armor, shit stun res, no MI, double Chaos Strike, and it’s the fastest build I’ve seen in clearing 150-170.
In vanilla I went with roughly 4k DA builds. They were God-like against the likes of Fabius, Sentinel, Maiden. But let’s be honest, as hard as those enemies they are still a tier below Mad Queen, Shar’Zul or Anasteria. My point being that shotgun enemies, nuke enemies, resist/DA shredding enemies can still hurt you really bad
Not saying high DA isn’t a good concept. I am just saying you’re not invincible.
Isn’t that just a variant of TD Arcanist? I thought it was established they were good. Not saying it’s a bad build but I am just saying it’s not surprising it excels the crucible
Looked insane at first look too but he/she used a lot of elixirs though. Not too familiar with what they do cause I’ve never used them aside from aether cluster and hoarfrost but it certainly helped a lot. Should still be viable without the elixirs knowing that spellbinder is one of the easiest classes for 170 but it’s gonna lose a lot of time seeing that it’s dw and not caster.
I don’t play much Arcanist so seeing a full melee one going berserk at multiple nemeses sure surprised me. Of course it would take TD.
Yeah I just noticed it, one of them is Hunt I think, what is the other?
I see. Forgot that some of them RR stacks, especially reaper. Surprised with alex having 28% pth though. Unless I made some errors in opying the pth formula, without DA shred he should have 0% chance. Never thought it’d jump that big after accounting da reductions. Thanks for the clarification.
Time is nuts indeed.
Yes, I’ve tested something similar, it was off-hand spellbinder with devastation (build 1 in caster section by Ptirodaktill).
It survives on chaining mirror of ereoctes with mark of torment, so it’s either completely immune or has huge damage reduction.
Though it deals huge damage and can clear really fast, I personally found it PITA to chain MoE and MoT. When serious business is going on (waves 160, 170) if you don’t chain these two perfectly you will die. I failed many attempts, even kiting didn’t save me.
But I don’t give up on the idea of immortal spellbinder. Will try the one you posted and that chinese guy ABCbarbecue has a spellbinder too with full Iskandra set, that may help with surviving.
I can make her tankier with kreeg set and 20 k unbuffed health and 30adcth}
Outside the nice chaos strike bursts it is Fiend (T5 devotion) proccing off Ravenous earth that seems to do the massive clearing
Yes, chainsaw from Fiend do a lot of dps.
Have you tried with Agrivix malice or is haunt rr so essential?
Haunt is mandatory for sustain. Agrivix does ~40k crits with his setup. Can push it to 60k with Claivoyant.
Nothing too important to add just to thank Zhuugus for this thread and really appreciating for updating it almost on daily basis.
Zhuugus, for the burn bwc sorcerer, the grimtools link doesn’t show any points put into anything other than physique, any ideas?
Tried playing the 6000 DA bleeding Warder but found having 9 active skills too much button pushing. Anyone tried this build and end up using macros to reduce the button pushing? If so any advise as to how I can do this would be appreciated.
If you mean the 4th build, yeah I put all points to physique. For most builds, point allocation is almost always put enough in cunning and spirit to meet gear requirements then put the rest to physique (notable exceptions are some pierce and physical builds). In my build, I reached the needed cunning and spirit to equip all items so I put everything on physique.
I’d love to help more and provide a sample grimtools but on moblie rn so I can’t. You could try removing totem and wind devil, maybe vines. And allocate them somewhere else.
Yes that one, gotcha. Also, can you give quick tips on how to play this build? This is my first crack at a demo, I just used the editor to make the character and give it a whirl. I am using BWC as main attack with the mines as my right click. I assume this is a kite build?
Sure. This is mainly a kite build but you need some degree of facetanking to take advantage of the bwc lingering on the ground. The current version posted wil require a good amount of experience from the player because you need to know whether to tank w/o mirror or go for mirror-ct-mirror combo (ct has time dilation) or just go for single mirror and use ct for the dots (ct dots are very strong). The usual skill rotation is mines-flashbang-bwc add mirror if you need then reset with ct and do it again. The rotation is not fixed though.
I advice you to play through campaign first, especially in the malmouth area before going to crucible. It somehow simulates a bit the swarms in crucible but it’s not as hard. Once you get used to it, move to crucible and practice there till you clear 170 consistently.
In crucible, start by kiting almost always then try to slowly tank a bit just to be familiar with the ins and outs of the build. Once you get to know how much you can tank and hownto deal with the ones you can’t then you’ll be clearing 170 very fast
Also, you can see my keybindings at page 38. There’s a screenshot behind a spoiler
yeah if you could show me a version that did not need all the different skills that would be nice. I like builds with 7 skills…RMB, LMB, mouse wheel up, mouse wheel down…6,7,8 (9 is my heal pot). Beyond that i find my move my hands around too much and don’t always heal in time.
Have been playing 6. DW vitality cabalist by THT - and had intially changed the build to match Zhuguus build (don’t have bis daggers, but close). Found that i was getting slaughtered in 150+ and randomly get one shotted. So took the 4 points out of spears of heaven and one point out of dying god and put them into solemn watcher and that seemed to keep reasonable dps and increase the DA a bit which helped surviving. I know i cannot solo gladiator using this build, but wondering if anyone has modified it to make it 150+ compatible. Thanks
Thanks!
You can throw away Blitz and Oleron’s might (skill from component), they are not really needed.
Soooo true
It is DW. In 150-170 nothing survives except superdefensive shield tanks and tanky kiting casters. The only exception is probably DW spellbinder I’m testing now, he’s half-immortal but tricky. So just forget 150-170 with DW cabalist.