SPOILER ALERT: Lore Discussion

RavaGER. Ravenger I assume is the version Nick Fury invited to join his team. :slight_smile:
If you talk to the Rovers in Gloomwald, one of them mentions that the spirit of the forest is THE Wendigo, an ancient spirit that was once noble, but got corrupted and now not even Mogdrogen can tame him. So it is quite possible he used to be a minor god or force of nature under Mogdrogen’s control?
Btw, did anyone try whether the expansion changed what you can say to Father Kymon’s followers about Korvaak?

Hmm, I gotta go there and check again. I am playing a Cabalist so maybe my minions killed them before I even saw them…

It’s easy to kill those two cannibals without seeing them. They’re just trash mobs and usually surrounded by a group of yetis that take much longer to die.

Indeed, you are correct!
Nuana is an Ugdenbog Marked and Silvie is a Turned. Odd that they are hanging out with Yeti, but I guess they tamed them maybe. :slight_smile:
Both are just simply Champion/Common monsters, not Uniques.

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Yup. I think I brought it up earlier in this thread.

I’m still curious if the “War” in the “West” was an actual war or a coverup of the last time the Loghorrean ritual was being done. Or, maybe, both. If it was an actual war, I’d like to know who Erulan fought against and what they’ve been up to with the Aetherial Invasion.

Sorry if this is not the place to ask, but how do you do that, view files? I tried checking creatures skills and stats in the editor for example, but it does not work like the Titan Quest editor did…

I just started checking this thread, from the last page and going backwards. So it is new dialogue, then? Cool. I like this extra info. Explains it even more how the Fort Ikon soldiers did not buy that the sabotage was done by “deserters” - I guess once you are Black Legion you never leave. Well, unless Aetherials possess you.

I think Ulgrim mentions the name of the northern nation, and Creed talks about them in detail, but since those are quest-dependent dialogues I cannot reproduce them now. They mention how the war began with a lot of back-and-forth conquering of Fort Ikon actually. Plus the architect’s notes mentions that the bodies of the enemy soldiers will be shipped back to them and not interred in the Necropolis. So the war did happen. Maybe that nation had Bloodsworn mages in its armies, or maybe they did this as a last resort, a doomsday weapon to wipe everyone out, themselves included?

Hmm, I don’t think that is true. They DID kill most of the old Coven, but that was because they became power hungry and basically wanted to do the same as the Witch Gods, part the veil to the Eldritch realm. Except they did not have the skills and I guess things could have gone pear-shaped easily. The Three appeared and massacred most, but left the leaders alive so that the Coven would remember never to try this again.
And if you talk to the Coven members and read notes, many of them actually worship the Three, while others are well aware that (likely Dreeg) is watching the Coven at all times.
Ivorl and his notes about webs and spiders and whispers is also a good indication that Bysmiel is trying to communicate with him, or is using him (or both).

Playing as a Necromancer is super fun too. Even before I choose factions in Homestead the Kymon delegate was literally spitting in my face and the Death’s Vigil one giving me a brofist. Balvoruuk and others have welcomed me as well. Luckily Inquisitor Creed did not notice. :slight_smile:

I haven’t played as Necro yet. Love how Crate is making dialogue specific to chosen classes.

I only played as Inquisitor and chose to ally with the Order. They were not very happy with me at the start, but seemed understanding to a certain extent. When I hit revered they all just did a 180 on their personality, I found it a bit uncomfortable lol

Heh, I am curious what the Ugdenbog Coven will say to you, then… :slight_smile:
And I guess then your first mastery counts in these discussions? I gotta visit the Attendant again with my Conjurer and see whether he has different dialogue as I started him out as an Occultist.

Others probably answered this but… it does not matter what you do. You can warn Larria and she will give you a reward and leave, but later when Scorv and the Wendigo Gang have put on their costumes (IE when you get to Respected to them) you will see Larria’s body near their altar, and Scorv will happily tell you “Huh, guess you did not chase her far, we caught her in the Gloomwald”. That struck me as a warning that you cannot have your cake and eat it too with these guys… if you join them, you will be doing evil things.
As for benefits, depends on your character. For pet builds, bleeding and vitality damage build, they have some awesome items, so definitely worth it. For fire-lightning-aether casters-shooters I guess you can instead attack them.

The coven basically told me to get lost. That I make their skin crawl… Some npc even maintains the attitude even after reaching revered.

Someone found anything else about Trista?

Nope. Probably a prelude to things that will happen in the next patch/xpac.

I’d love it if they do a side plot that doesn’t involve Chthonians or Aetherials. A different enemy albeit small one (from the POV of the meta-plot) would be nice
There’s also something else I always wanted, a village/settlement of people who are all former bloodsworn. Do we condemn them for their past or assist them in their redemption? That sounds a better choice than “side with cannibals for awesome augments” vs “fuck you”

I dunno who else is there. I mean, powerful as we are, I doubt we could take on the Witch Gods, for example, or the actual deities. Or Ch’thon himself. And anything else would be a step back considering the escalation in power of the enemies we faced. I mean, we defeated a sort-of embodiment of Ch’thon (his Voice), and a high ranking Aetherial. From here, we could only go up.
Given that this expansion was Aetherial centric, I very much doubt they would have a large presence in any upcoming expansion. But since everyone keeps talking about the Dead God awakening, I am rather sure we will go back to the Void next. Or maybe the Void will come to us? Imagine if a rift opened and it started corrupting and warping the landscape. Not like Aetherfire, more like the mishmash of buildings we often see in the Void.
I imagine whatever expansion comes next, it would be just new areas/monsters/items, and no new masteries.

You didn’t defeat anyone, Ulgrim killed Loghorrean the best you could do is manage to send it back to the void. Don’t presume you’re anywhere near my creations, human :slight_smile:

The expac might have been aetherial centric but we did get to learn a lot about those guys, now we know the brains behind the invasion are called the Circle of Five. There’s something even they fear (maybe primordials or maybe other aetherials who might not approve of their methods)
We also learned that the stronger aetherials exist on a plane of power that is much higher than our own. Not surprising considering they took part in the war of the primordials
I can live w/o another mastery tbh. Less balancing and lesser headache with theorycrafting

I for one would like them to slow down a little bit and explore some region with relatively less aetherial/chthonian corruption. Maybe send us there to retrieve some old Luminari artifact and along the way we encounter more survivors, more stuff to repair and a different enemy (undead/beastkin) who is both intelligent and challenging

Oh yeah I remember one of the Aetherial note mentioned that some other powerful deities are keeping eyes on their invasion of Cairn, don’t know who they are yet, should be fun.

I generally dislike this kind of snooty bullshit. Oh you’re just a mortal, you can’t possibly affect the incredibly powerful forces in play here, NPCs will do all the real work in cutscenes or off camera, and then they’ll prance up and tell you about it later. Well, I don’t appreciate uppity NPCs stealing my thunder. I’m the player, so kindly pander to my ego.

That said, in this particular case I didn’t really mind. I’m not entirely sure why, because it has all the elements that usually annoy me.

Maybe it’s that Ulgrim is actually rather nice and likeable (as a person, all the “legend” and “ascendant” guff aside). Maybe it’s that he took a beating and I felt sorry for him.

Maybe it’s that I did get to fight Log first, anyway, and for all I know I really did kill Log myself; maybe Ulgrim just got sucked into the void like a schmuck, and he made up this BS about really killing Log afterwards to try to impress me and save face.

Dunno. Anyway, it worked this time, but I hope Crate doesn’t go back to that well again.

The only time they’ll piss me off with this is if they steal my Mog kill. Otherwise I’m fine with them doing this

P.S

You’d probably hate Shadowrun: Dragonfall :smiley:

no respawn no buy :slight_smile:

Pffftt, look, I killed that fat-ass Sharzul, your most powerful champion with freaking molotov cocktails, took his dildo and shoved it up his ass. Puny god.

Chthon is overrated. I cant wait to blast that god to smithereens:rolleyes:

I am more interested in facing the Circle and Aetherials and of whatever they are still made of. These creatures are far more interesting than those beings that linger in the void.