They’re fanatics, don’t mess with fanatics.
It is going to be intresting to see what the three(?) new factions are and how do they interact with existing one.
One must be a corrupted version of Kymons Chosen, but the other two are a big ?.
Hope they all arent’t hostile.
Crate could give us some hints, like pics.
Havin some “Indiana Jones” explorer could be nice, but since we don’t get ne weapon types whips won’t be a thing…
Zantai gave us a lot of information in a previous stream. Here is a copy paste regarding factions.
“there will be 4 new factions”
“you will be allying yourself with the 3 cults of the Witch Gods”
“well, you will select one, getting a few unique quests”
“but selecting one does not make you enemies with the other 3”
“yes, one new hostile faction”
Smells like “Balance of Nature”-sort of thing with some major evil, liike Korvaak, trying to f-up happy hippies utopia of constant beachparties and such.
Damn, I still want my whip, now to flog the hippies back in line in Menhirs name.
Oh yeah that too.
Btw, something I wondered about - I don’t think you ever encounter Undead and Aetherials together, but they would attack each other, right? This game is unlike most RPGs where zombies and skeletons are just different sort of undead, and this is something I like - Aetherial Aberrations are mindless corpses animated by Aether, while the skeletal and ghostly Undead are cursed ancient humans unable to die. Dunno how Ghouls factor into this, but I assume from that note found under Fort Ikon that they are vile criminals who came back from the dead somehow.
I think factions react to you based on your FIRST mastery selected. So if you started out as a Necromancer they will treat you as a friend, if you started as an Inquisitor, they will not like you much. At least with my Cabalist, everyone treated me as a Necromancer, not as an Occultist, I did not get different conversation options with the Coven, unlike my Conjurer who started out as an Occultist.
Oh, that is odd. I kinda thought the Coven already represented the Witch Gods, seeing as many of their members openly worship Dreeg, Solael or Bysmiel. So 3 new factions will be the Cult of Dreeg, Solael and Bysmiel. That likely leaves one hostile by default faction - most likely some followers of Korvaak who know and worship him for what he is, not under the guise of Empyrion. I wonder if like Anasteria, Father Kymon will travel with you to the new area? And how will all this work if you are allied with Death’s Vigil…
You can pull the Undead around the Crumbling Watch area into the Aetherials near Isaiah’s overturned cart and yes, they will fight each other.
Ghouls are people who had a undesirable hunger for blood that leads to cannibalism. See the Trip South which you can meet.
The Coven is just the base of operation while the With gods work together. I still think they have a base of operation just for their faction.
The expansion is going to be interesting, Uroboruuk investigating while Dravis is on his tale. Than of course Father Kymon and his Choosen. Will there be a clash between Uroboruuk with Dravis or with Father Kymon. I think we will learn more of the With Gods and forgotten gods. Hoping for more info about the war of the gods and of that was connected with the Arkovian downfall.
Umm, no, those are Wendigos. You can even meet the woman and her daughter turned into Ugdenbog Wrecthes in one of the camps amongst some Yeti now that AoM is out. I posted a screencap earlier in this thread.
Nice, I’ll try that! And btw, I mentioned Ghouls because otherwise the most Undead are connected to Uroboruuk and Arkovia.
Btw, on that note, I wish the Revenants that Death’s Vigil summons would count as their faction, not as Undead - it’s hard enough to get infamy with them let alone when half of their teams - unlike Kymon’s Chosen - do not even count as their reputation.
It’s still doable up to Act 4 UNLIKE Devil’s Crossing.
Weren’t ghouls byproducts of Big Us Curse?
I thought ghouls were necropolis workers trapped underground forever searching for sustenance. Or something like that
Aha yes your right but i did found something i posted once regarding Ghouls.
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=453662&postcount=375
Death’s Vigil summons count as their faction not as Undead …developers said before !!
Yeah, but there is also this note you find in the Lost Tomb of the Damned, below the Tomb of Archon Barthollem - which is full of Ghouls and Ghosts.
https://grimdawn.gamepedia.com/A_Terrible_Discovery
There are scratches on the floor and walls as if something scored the very stone. I have also found bones with strange markings on them, as if gnawed by an animal. And lately I’ve been hearing sounds coming from the walls, as if something was skulking in the darkness nearby. Some wretched thing gliding along the shadows staying just outside the light.
I love this note, classic gothic horror text in the style of Lovecraft and others. 
I think it pretty much implies that particularly evil people can come back from the dead by sheer malice alone as Ghouls, without any necromancy.
Cool, I did not know that, good news! Other such creatures (like Wendigos) are at least counted as Undead AND Beast so you know they count as Beasts for bounties.
Ghouls are people that have feasted on corpse meat and have become cursed to a kind of unlife.
Wendigos are people that have succumbed to cannibalism and the promises of the wendigo spirit, Ravager.
Thanks! Cool to have this confirmed.
What is the difference between somebody eating a corpse and a cannibal ? How long the corpse has been dead ?
Don’t know if this has been discussed or confirmed before, but is Lokarr==Dravis?
after his face got burnt he wears the mask, and after some sort of long story he ended up needing dead powerful souls to stay alive, because he mentioned he is “not quite immortal” or something, thoughts?
I’d say not, simply due to Lokarr’s quotes about seeing things from before the time of humans, i.e. Ulzuin’s betrayal by the other gods. If Lokarr was Dravis as an ascendant, he still wouldn’t have that kind of ancient knowledge.
Seems to me the difference is the motivation behind it. Ghouls are former humans who turned to cannibalism to survive in desperate situations (they did it out of need rather than want and slowly turned the more they feasted), whereas the cannibals of Ugdenbog can be seen to revel in their actions and worship a god of cannibalism - there was no desperation in their actions, they gave themselves over to Ravager willingly.
Would it make sense to make ally with Sliths at any point?
Moderately intelligent beastkin such as Trolls, Grobles and Draghouls have always hated humans and even in times of catastrophe they don’t want to ally with us. It kinda does make sense.
Sliths are a different story entirely, most of them were former humans before being turned into monstrosities. They’re not allied with other beasts or beastkin,
If some human turned slith suddenly choose to help us would it make sense? Kind of like how Sylvannas is kind of our ally or better yet kind of like how Annie/Ana or Korinia are on our side.
I just proposed this cause if people here think that it makes sense then it’d be nice to have a slith NPC
I’d like that. But so far Slith are portrayed as inherently hostile, no doubt because humanity has hunted them for decades or centuries, trying to eradicate them as pests and abominations. I’d have liked if we would be given maybe a chance to talk to Ellena the First Slith, but I understand why the story is built in a way that you only learn who she was from her father’s notes.
It’s also possible that while Slith are intelligent and have their own language, they cannot communicate with us.
I don’t think people still turn into Slith anymore - Hargate was the only one who did that, no doubt using other children after the success with Ellena. After that, they bred with each other and produced more. Hargate was condemned and imprisoned and his notes destroyed by the horrified Arcanists, and even Kasparov cannot make heads or tails of the notes you recovered, so I doubt anyone could replicate his experiment… or want to.
The thing I found interesting though is that Hargate did not just create a new species… he kinda discovered immortality, no? I mean Ellena was still there in the lab, who knows how many years later, and the other NPC talk and notes make me think the Slith have been around for centuries at least. Maybe it was a combination of the aether and the reptilian genes that did that? It’d be nice to know though just how much of a person’t personality was left behind after the transformation.