Stacking of "Reduced Targets Damage for x seconds" ?

[Bevdogg]

Greetings all,

As the title implies, do different sources of “Reduced Targets Damage for x seconds” stack?
If so, is this additive or multiplicative? (I would assume multiplicative).
Does this affect DoT’s/flat/% damage equally?
Usually, the “x seconds” is 1, which is continuously applied for the duration of the skill/spell. In the linked build below, for AoC, this is constant. For Ravenous Earth, it’s the duration of the skill.

An example of this stacking on a character I’ve been fluffing with using Aura of Censure & Ravenous Earth (with Decay) with Radaggan’s Folly set:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RVvyEbm2
(Note: the linked build is in no way finalized & is still in development. Please do not resort to scrutinizing my skill/gear/devotion choices. I know it’s not perfect).
Although I do have a lvl 95 toon with this exact setup, being a busy bee, I’ve little time to test.

Edit:
veretragna: If you read this, you may wish to add a note regarding this to your Gladiator Guide as I’m not sure if you’ve covered it in your Survivability section:

If anyone has any experience with this mechanic please share any info you may have.
Any constructive feedback is welcome.

Cheers.

[Superfluff]

Greetings all,

As the title implies, do different sources of “Reduced Targets Damage for x seconds” stack?
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Nope, that would be op, even if multiplicative. Highest value wins:)

[Bevdogg]

Nope, that would be op, even if multiplicative. Highest value wins:)

Thanks Fluff for mentioning. I did consider this would be the case.
Do you know what the highest source is? 30% on Decay is the highest I’ve seen so far.

Cheers.

[Silben]

DW blade of the black flame should give 36%. But it’d lock you into playing chaos FoI.

[Superfluff]

Thanks Fluff for mentioning. I did consider this would be the case.
Do you know what the highest source is? 30% on Decay is the highest I’ve seen so far.

Cheers.

Theoretically warcry could do 30% as well i think. But only with warborn set and other + skills. but you would be gimping your char with those items.

If you want to reduce as much dmg as possible try battlemage. for example.

Bulwark+maiven %absorb+Warcry

You can do this with krieg set

[Bevdogg]

DW blade of the black flame should give 36%. But it’d lock you into playing chaos FoI.

Do they stack, or does only the main hand/off hand apply? Additively for 36% seems OP.

[Superfluff]

Do they stack, or does only the main hand/off hand apply? Additively for 36% seems OP.

I highly doubt it’s additive or that it stacks. It’s a debuff from the same source. It doesn’t matter if it’s another item, debuffs generally are considered the same source.

2x MAtriarch rings won’t stack rr for example

[Silben]

I highly doubt it’s additive or that it stacks. It’s a debuff from the same source. It doesn’t matter if it’s another item, debuffs generally are considered the same source.

2x MAtriarch rings won’t stack rr for example

If it was a proc I’d agree with you but other types of debuffs such as the slow on flamtstrife do stack, or seem too at least. Or the -cold res on chillstrifes.

[Superfluff]

If it was a proc I’d agree with you but other types of debuffs such as the slow on flamtstrife do stack, or seem too at least. Or the -cold res on chillstrifes.

Ah forgot it’s a mod. It might stack then, but i’d be curious too as to how

However The voS mods are -% debuff. But these are straight %which normally don’t stack, highest value wins…

[Evil_Baka]

Besides % reduced target’s damage, I think it’s also worth mentioning % reduced target’s Elemental damage as well on Nullification/Horn of Gandarr. At max rank, it reduces by 33% and max overcap goes up to 45%. On the right enemy (such as Valdaran or Mogdrogen), something like this would be huge.

[Superfluff]

Besides % reduced target’s damage, I think it’s also worth mentioning % reduced target’s Elemental damage as well on Nullification/Horn of Gandarr. At max rank, it reduces by 33% and max overcap goes up to 45%. On the right enemy (such as Valdaran or Mogdrogen), something like this would be huge.

Nullification too afaik

[Xervous]

Remember how lower level plaguebearer’s has/had a wider range?

Tyrant’s and Of The Abyss have that too. A bit of GDstash testing shows it can go up to at least 34% with the lower level affixes.

[Avyctes]

So how does the mod on Voice of Dreeg work then? Assuming you have 12/12 decay as well, this mod seems a bit pointless if only the highest one works? Which one would work anyway, how does the game ‘decide’ if the numbers are the same? This is making little sense to me.

[Bevdogg]

So how does the mod on Voice of Dreeg work then? Assuming you have 12/12 decay as well, this mod seems a bit pointless if only the highest one works? Which one would work anyway, how does the game ‘decide’ if the numbers are the same? This is making little sense to me.

I’m not sure about this either Avyctes.

[USER_NAME_01]

So how does the mod on Voice of Dreeg work then? Assuming you have 12/12 decay as well, this mod seems a bit pointless if only the highest one works? Which one would work anyway, how does the game ‘decide’ if the numbers are the same? This is making little sense to me.

Assuming that item modifies the skill, it would be 25+25, so 50% reduced elemental damage, 25% for everything else. It might also be multiplicative, I don’t know which one would be correct. BUT if Ravenous Earth and Decay are classified as separate skills, meaning decay is RE’s skill (like, something it casts - Foul Eruption is like that), it might be just replaced. So in the end, Decay basically doesn’t exist since it is put straight into the Ravenous Earth skill like it was one skill with 28 points you can add.

For short, Ravenous Earth behaves like Decay would just modify the RE (just like other items do) and increase the point cap to 28/48 with item bonuses, meaning you can increase the damage reduction even further to either 50 or 43.75% (if multiplicative).

If I am wrong, I want to be banned.