[Suggestion] Recreate unpopular Legendary Non-Set Items as Pierce / Bleed set items

Grim Dawn Ideas and Feedback
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There are currently no Pierce / Bleed legend set items. As far as I’ve looked in the last few days, Build with these as main damage uses Bloodragger or Shattered set.
So, I suggest recreating some items that are unpopular and rarely used into set items.

I propose to integrate the following four items.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/62aEYj32

My modest hope is to support RoS (or PB) and BT. These skills can work in either proximity or distance.
And do not include weapons in set items. There are already many options for weapons.

Postscript:
As a sub-support, I would like to focus on Vier’s Might like Vanquisher.
Debuff enemies with BT, rush to them with VM and deal damage, escape with rune skills. The series of movements looks like a ninja, looks cool and interesting.

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BT? I am confused (stands for?).

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Blade Trap :wink:

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Ah…that explains it. Nobody uses it. :joy:

If I have some time later, I will post a few thoughts about possible Bleeding Set (besides Bloodrager).

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I love the idea of more legit support for skills like ring of steel and blade trap. Blade trap is one of my favorite skills in the game. Cool as hell, though it will whiff on pretty much all bosses, its my favorite way to deal with mobs. A close runner up is grasping vines.

my builds that run the skill arent top tier by any means, but theyre always fun to play as these skills are really enjoyable for me.

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the anti-set maffia says hi.

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thanks.
I also like BT effects. However, it is often wasted. so unfortunately I’ve only used it a few times despite the total playing time of 3k hours.
I want more set items focused on this skill. Surely it will be fresh and interesting.

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Until return -% rr for bleed on the vileblood mantle , this item will a trash-meme tier item .

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Even then…wouldn´t be a good item. It supports:

  • Forcewave (Soldier)…huh?
  • Shaman (has enough RR and is supported by Bloodrager)
  • Oathkeeper (perhaps…but Oathkeeper needs more for a decent Bleeding build and has RR)
  • Nightblade (could be interesting with RR…but needs a class with AA and well, they all have RR)
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Some thoughts about a new Bleeding Set. Keep in mind, this just a Brainstorming, some things may be not the best solutions/ideas.

Just 2 issues not to forget:
a) No conversion! Either there is some kind of Bleeding damage or there is not. Easy solution, sometimes frustrating.
b) As with any damage type, RR is important. Each Bleeding build could have 57 RR from devotions (Huntress and Manticore/Revenant). Target number should be min. 90.

So, what is the current situation? We have 3 (4) masteries seen in Bleeding builds: Nightblade, Shaman, Soldier and, to a lesser extent, Occultist (well, I was the only one with a Bleeding Conjurer…). Two of these masteries have excellent RR-abilities (Shaman, Occultist), the other two nice item support, WPS and/or AA-Replacer. (I think an AA-Replacer is needed most of the time for effectively triggering WPS).

On some items, there is support for other classes but I don´t think, it is enough.

So, which classes should a new set/a collection of non-set items support?

I. Oathkeeper
What, Oathkeeper has great Bleeding skills!
Yeah…can´t deny it. But like I said, EoR is not the best choice for Bleeding. Sure, you can build a decent Archon (I did) and maybe Warlord, but what about Dervish, Paladin (will come to that later) or Sentinel?
Perhaps items, that support Righteous Fervor, Smite or even Shattering Smash for Bleeding would make this viable.

II. Inquisitor
Doesn´t fit…
Well, I made a Bleeding Vindicator. Melee, nothing special, but nonetheless Inquisitor has some nice support skills. Deadly Aim, Word of Renewal-line, Seal…now what about Bleeding to the ranged WPS?
There is already “Bloodborer”, but this is an odd item. 1H-Ranged, so useless for Vindicator (no Shaman WPS) but with Bleeding bonus to the Inquisitor WPS, Vindicator with Gutripper could be viable. With RR support, perhaps even Tactican. Or Paladin, etc. (Bloodborer for Infiltrator without AA-Replacer? Don´t understand this item…)

III. Necromancer
This is no bleeding mastery…
Well, I thought so, too. Aether, Cold, Vitality. Well, Crate thinks differently…look at Guillotine. Sure, I wouldn´t mind to level e. g. a Ritualist. Just give some support to Necrotic Edge and or Reaping Strike. Bleeding Death Knight, Bleeding Oppressor…count me in.

At last, a set with something like Belgothian´s Strike would be great, too. Bleeding Reaper…hmm…

Some thoughts from a Weirdo, thanks for reading. :slight_smile:

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Korvoran Set with focus on pierce/bleeding Phantasmal Blades and Ring of Steel, 3-mastery set: Nightblade, Shaman, Oathkeeper or Nightblade, Soldier, Shaman

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I can´t say anything about Pierce. It´s quite the opposite of Bleeding: Only direct damage. :wink:

But please, not another Nightblade/Soldier/Shaman…that´s Bloodrager. Especially Shaman has so many items for Bleeding…

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You are right, than it could be Nightblade/Occultist/Necromancer, for example, with some mod to add -pierce/-bleed res to Spectral Wrath

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Can’t happen, Spectral Wrath can’t get -% RR mods. On top of that, only base skills get any skill mod, so Spectral Binding would be that would have to get it.

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I wouldn´t mind Nightblade, because I love this mastery (my Trickster) and Bleeding Reaper would be a nice thing, but as I said in my wall of text, Ranged Bleeding should be focused more. So Inquisitor should not be forgotten. And I would prefer Oathkeeper…well, I don´t know the thoughts of Zantai/Crate-Team, but at the moment, Bleeding support is on the “wrong” skills imho. Presence of Virtue and Guardians…:+1:…Tectonic Shift and Eye of Reckoning…:mask:

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What if there is a Mod that changes global vitality to piercing / bleeding? Do you think it works well?