Templar Build - Big time retaliation issue,
The issue i am having is when pretty much any skill in Arcanist that has to be toggled on “Iskandra elemental exchange, Maiven protection and in particular Star Pact” Automatically Phys retaliation drops. Why? I tried each skill independent to see if only one was doing it and it is all of them doing it. I went from almost 600 to near 250 as soon as i turned these on. If this is something that was done on purpose then it is by far the most ridiculous thing done lol.
I mean i might get it, if it only did due to Maivens as you get absorption from that skill, but come on. I was wondering why a previous build from AOM was having this issue and i dismissed it until i caught it in this Templar build.
Anyone else have this issue? are the Devs addressing this issue?
I just recently learned that passive retaliation is affected by conversion. So the likely cause it that IEE is converting a portion of your physical to fire, cold, lit. And Star pact -> cold.
I don’t think the Maiven’s negative modifier to total damage affects retal, but I’m not certain.
I think i understand what you are saying, however none of those skills have Retaliation modifiers on them unless that is hidden. I agree they do have Damage modifiers on them. As an example, i have Closed fist of vengeance which in my case gives me automatic 350 Physical retaliation and +50% to all other. before i turn on any skills it only shows that i have 270 physical retal and this is not even including anything from my constellations…All in all, I am supposed to be getting almost 2,000 in phys retaliation alone and when all skills are on i am getting like 400. In fact it seems that when i proc it may actually be getting lower, I am not sure on that though. that being said it seems something is off. And if you are correct in your statement since when did they initiate Retaliation conversion? not being cocky i am curious.
Retaliation being effected by conversion is a pretty recent thing :p. If anything, I’m assuming it’s part of why all instances of Pierce Retaliation were made into Physical (like devotion). Physical can easily be converted into any damage type.
Maiven’s lowering your Retal damage is odd though. I used to think that total damage modified effected Retaliation but when I tried Overguard’s transmuter some time ago, there was no change.
It’s not just Maivens, it Star pact that does it the most, nearly cuts my Phys retaliation in 1/2, also iskandra exchange… basically anything that converts Physical Damage, must be screwed up, because instead of converting the Damge, it is converting the Retaliation instead. It’s like saying dont convert lol.
This is not a good thing at all lol since the game now is based pretty much on Physical retaliation it seems. WTH would you want to convert the retaliation on physical unless say you wanted more vitality retaliation and so forth. if what we are saying is correct then you could actually end up with a negative Physical retaliation. for instance, I am converting all my fire damage to Cold damage in this build. right there would explain why i get one hit lol, when in AOM i was doing the one hit and they are dead.