The infinite scrolling feature SUCKS!

I just realized you can drag the timeline bar to stop it at any post # you want…so don’t even need to use a scroll wheel.

That pretty much removed my one remaining minor annoyance with it.

The only “gripe” I have with it is that I wish it would drag the whole page in real-time rather than only moving after you let go. Can you find out if that’s possible?

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that’s cool, can I have one of those bars here as well?

The current way limits page loading to the target post, your way would mean loading everything in between as well.

Yea I considered that. Alternatively I suppose you could also just grab the browsers actual scrollbar and drag it up and down as well.

Sure, except for the fact that I used forums that started on Discourse and hated them all the same for a few weeks straight before simply leaving outright. See my first post in this thread regarding Vermintide. Z has made some good improvements here and there, but Discourse is still one of the worst pieces of modern forum software out there in terms of usability.

Don’t get me wrong - I get the point that moving to a secure, open-source piece of software immediately after a hacking debacle seems like a great idea! But I, personally, have nothing but immense loathing for Discourse and would never advocate for its use in a gaming forum…other than tabletop games. I could see it being useful there. But we’re a bit far from that.

In what ways…?

I’m not gonna go to people’s houses and force their opinions out of their throats. If you find something about the forum that’s not working, state your feedback.

Must give us pause. What do you mean I HAD to use Google? I use it every day, it’s a decent searching engine if you didn’t know that. And now what, I HAVE to use built-in searching engine?

So, you state that something new is better for the only reason it’s new.

I appreciate your work over search engine and, I assume, security stuff. But why to make the forum appearance so awful? Don’t you know about the MODULAR PROGRAMMING? Don’t try to persuade me that it was impossible to improve forum’s engine without ruining its appearance. You are improving GD’s engine and appearance independently, aren’t you? Crate, you have smart and talented programmers in your staff (I play several modern games, and GD is not only one of the most balanced regarding game mechanics, but also is best optimized in terms of perfomance).

Yes, people are generally conservative and traditional. And computer users are too. And new scrolling navigation is just an ill fashion which many people are just HAVE to bear. Pagination is a human-side standard de-facto. That is the way we as humans are accustomed for information perception, that’s the best for our visual ant context memory. That’s human’s psychology. I’m a teacher of history IRL and I know something about how human’s apperception and memory work. Also, that is convenient for old-school internet users to open different pages in different browser tabs etc. etc. If you think that scrolls are better than pages, just open a bookstore where you’d sell scrolls instead of books with pages. You’ll be a second Jeff Bezos, I bet. So, pages is a convenience and respect towards users, and toilet paper rolls are inconvenience and disrespect.

Regarding that “Ctrl-F” stuff. You guys are kidding me with such serious faces that I’m a bit embarassed. Look, I just don’t want to see all those dozens and hundreds of pages in one page. My Google Chrome devoures computer’s memory like no tomorrow (I have a rather old laptop), it becomes slow and laggy. But now I HAVE to see all this stuff in one page. And when you are scrolling a giant page with a scrollbar as small as a mosquitto’s penis, that’s totally inconvenient.

And? It doesn’t even load entire ‘large’ threads. It loads them piece-by-piece, just like… pages. gasp
Sorry but I said I needed an actual, real, valid. Reason. Still haven’t seen one that in any way invalidates the timelines viability.

And trying to compare real scrolls versus a “scrolling digital timeline” is a piss poor analogy that isn’t doing a history teacher any favors and certainly doesn’t lend your argument any strength. Maybe a history teacher in their 20’s might try using that. Are you in your 20’s by any chance?

Well, that’s the thing. Everything(ish) is working(ish). There’s nothing more to be done really, save for a few plugins/modules/etc. you might be able to add here and there to bandaid the issues inherent to Discourse. What sort of feedback should I give that hasn’t been given already, and to what end? By no means do I intend to ask you to stop using Discourse, I’m just disappointed is all. But it’d be unreasonable to propose another forum migration days after finally settling in to this one just because a few people don’t like it.

If you can sift through the…I don’t know what to call it…of Victor’s posts, they more or less have nailed the core issues, albeit in a less-than-professional manner:

TL;DR, pagination of threads and pagination of posts within those threads made referring to particular things fundamentally easier/quicker for some people (myself included) than the infinite scroll. Regardless of how fancy one might try to word it or surround it with “facts”, it really just comes down to a personal preference that is wildly different between two groups of users.

By the way, to appease your impatience on discord, this reply would have taken only half the time to write on the old forum.

here it comes… it’s coming!

Look. The new engine is modern-like and excellent in many ways. Citation and editing are more convenient indeed. But please return the traditional pagination, because these sheets of messages just ruin the conversation experience.

If you haven’t seen the reason, that means just you haven’t seen it. That doesn’t mean there is no reason.

Discourse simply doesn’t do pages, I don’t understand why people keep going on about that. Unless you want to write the code for it yourself this is pointless.

I’m not sure modular programming means what you think it means.

I literally took colors from the old forum when setting up this one. As for the general appearance, that’s going to be subjective ultimately.

So a forum software literally called Discourse is somehow worse for a “conversation experience” than the ancient vBulletin. I feel we’ll agree to disagree there.

Anyways, this thread has turned into a veritable circular argument, so I’m going to lock it.

If anyone has constructive feedback to improving the new forum, and not feels, you can now post it here:
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/new-forum-feedback/81869/4